Knew this would happen, had to turn down job

[Trixie78]

I'm furious, have been out of work for a while. Was offered a temporary contract writing and implementating policy for a public sector organisation. Just up my street and would really have helped us out. Turns out they're Stonewall champions and are full on TWAW and have all rights to anything they want. I asked to review some of their current policies and it's all cisgender crap and lists of stuff we must and mustn't do to make all Trans people safe. We'll I've obviously had to turn down the role and worse I told the recruiter why so will probably never get a job through them now. There are companies out there that haven't bought into all this crap aren't there?

Flippin hell that was an exhausting thread (just the reading of it). Hats off to Driveway for being a grown up and apologising!

@MenopausalCrone

Flippin hell that was an exhausting thread (just the reading of it). Hats off to Driveway for being a grown up and apologising!

Yes, it was a rapid ride, she clearly has a quick mind, what a shame it was used in the service of this batshittery.

So much female energy STILL being harnessed by men for men. I hope she's in recovery :)

So much wasted intelligence.

Thanks to mumsnet mods for this, I think encouraging people to adjust to civility is a real positive of this site.

Indeed. Wish they’d do it more often. Multiple threads here have become close to unreadable recently due to a tiny minority of posters who continually jump in to call us homophobes or transphobes without making any coherent argument, yet are allowed to continue when effectively they do nothing but name call.

@Trixie78 it may well be my former employer you are talking about where I was actually on the equalities team. I hated all that TWAW shite but kept my mouth shut and got on with it and kept my views to myself. The fact they cared more about some equality groups over others is one of the reasons I left though. It all felt very hypocritical. That said, could you not have just kept your own personal views, done the job, and kept looking for something else whilst there?

If I am right and you have chosen to apologise to keep your ability to post here then I hope you can find some benefit from engaging in these conversations. It's not everyone's idea of feminism here, but it is women talking honestly and openly.

This is it. As long as we all post in good faith, we will all benefit from each other's experiences.

No, I haven't chosen to apologise to keep my posting ability.

I was actually advised following my strikes not to return to the thread by MN, but I chose to because I can recognise when I'm being a dick and think it's important to own it.

@Scepticaltank I am choosing not to engage with you following your frankly spiteful comment after my apology.

We are humans behind the computer.

I don't know, she's described you as having a quick mind, I think I'd see it as a compliment really. But we are obviously all different.

You're right, we must be as I didn't see it as a compliment at all, it came across as extremely patronising and insulting towards a poster who had the big enough character to come back and say 'hang on' and self reflected about their posts.

Ah, I should have stuck with my first instinct and not accepted the apology.

It's a useful admission though, that you don't actually know why you are rude and aggressive, I think that's the case for lot's of people who get behind this thought policing.

I'm not sure what Sceptical said that was wrong?

and patronising over younger people needing the wisdom of the older ladies to put them on the 'right path' mind of as if people don't know their own minds or something which is

Bit rude and patronising to assume everyone here is an older lady. Best have that biscuit for yourself.

I thought biscuits were banned?

I thought biscuits were banned too.

Looks like they are?

Maybe it was the agism...

Was there agism, I didn’t see it

Oops, must have been the biscuit that was a step too far , blush]
I stand by what I said though which is that it did come across as patronising.
Like younger people don't know their own minds, which is incredibly patronising.

Bit rude and patronising to assume everyone here is an older lady

I wasn't doing that at all, I was referring to this bit

I said some daft and silly things in my youth, and was pulled up on them. I am grateful to the older people that pulled me up and recognise that I needed to both say them and be told why they were daft and inconsiderate.
Which to me is the bit that smacks of incredibly patronising, and yes, ageism.
If I've been deleted because somebody jumped to me being ageist, looks like it's been misunderstood.

Or maybe it was the biscuit usage, who knows

Looked like you were referring to the majority of posters here tbh. Maybe you got deleted for the biscuit and the ageism.

@Erkrie

Looked like you were referring to the majority of posters here tbh. Maybe you got deleted for the biscuit and the ageism.

Ah right, well I wasn't referring to the posters here at all, didn't mean it to come across that way. (How would I know how old anyone is, and what the hell has anyone's age got to do wit anything anyway?! As I said people can know their own minds. I was referring to the bit I quoted in my last comment.

@Scepticaltank

Ah, I should have stuck with my first instinct and not accepted the apology.

It's a useful admission though, that you don't actually know why you are rude and aggressive, I think that's the case for lot's of people who get behind this thought policing.

I wish you had, instead of taking the opportunity to stick the boot in.

I didn't say I don't know why I'm rude and aggressive. I said I don't know why this topic presses buttons.

@Quaagars

You're right, we must be as I didn't see it as a compliment at all, it came across as extremely patronising and insulting towards a poster who had the big enough character to come back and say 'hang on' and self reflected about their posts.

Thank you 💖

I don't think anyone can say in good faith they thought that was a pleasant comment.

@Scepticaltank

Ah, I should have stuck with my first instinct and not accepted the apology.

It's a useful admission though, that you don't actually know why you are rude and aggressive, I think that's the case for lot's of people who get behind this thought policing.

It's a very back handed compliment and tinged with a sense of your own superiority.

Maybe that's "thought policing" or my genuine reaction to reading your words- take your pick.