I just came out as GC at work, to the big boss and I feel a bit sick

[JustcameoutGC]

I have NCed for this. I have just outed myself as GC in work to the big boss (and some others cced in).

I was asked to sign off on something that I just couldn't and I said so, and explained why.

I literally feel sick. Like I have put a big fat GC target on my back. My org is totally woke. I wonder how many times my response has been forwarded already.

As an example in my workplace someone said something on our social media pages that someone internally decided was transexclusionary. Not a single external person raised any issues. The person had all SM responsibilities removed and was sent for enhanced diversity training.

So yes, making it clear that I hold gender critical views was a risky, but professionally necessary thing to do. I suspect I am on a few radars now.

I am building up to challenging an organisation I work with for using ‘gender’ in an important questionnaire, when quite clearly they mean sex. In fact, I have already challenged it but the questionnaire “owner” has left the organisation and I’m trying to track down his replacement!

Leafstamp Good luck and many thanks for taking this on.
Accurate, clear and appropriate language use is so very important in many organisations.

@nellodee I just typed in 'what rhymes with cervix' into Google and it came up with some very odd and amusing answers! www.rappad.co/rhymes-with/cervix

I think your songs sound great - I've worked in some very deprived areas with user groups who have low levels of educational attainments and low health literacy due to various reasons and that sounds like a great way to engage with teenagers particularly.

@Datun. Eh, I never said anything about sex categories.

The one and only thing I disagreed with was people saying teenagers don't know what a cervix was and I've been happily corrected.

enhanced diversity training.

It should be a good thing, but it sounds like room 101.

@JustcameoutGC

As an example in my workplace someone said something on our social media pages that someone internally decided was transexclusionary. Not a single external person raised any issues. The person had all SM responsibilities removed and was sent for enhanced diversity training.

So yes, making it clear that I hold gender critical views was a risky, but professionally necessary thing to do. I suspect I am on a few radars now.

It's hard to know without knowing what they said.

But most organisations have policies like that.

Teachers , for example, have ridiculous SM restrictions. But nobody seems to care about that.

The one and only thing I disagreed with was people saying teenagers don't know what a cervix was and I've been happily corrected.

Good on you for admitting your mistake.

@Floisme

Another example is when organisations use staff surveys that replace 'sex' with 'gender' and that are powered by the likes of Survey Monkey, so if you raise it with your own HR you're told that they didn't choose the wording.

Yep! My quest has consisted of finding out the organisation that designed the questionnaire - luckily it’s one I work with (not for). In fact as we are basically a customer of theirs, I am hoping my views will hold more weight (and be less risky for me) than if I was questioning my own organisation’s use of language.

The person had all SM responsibilities removed and was sent for enhanced diversity training.

wrongthink
I wonder which organisation organised that training

@Ereshkigalangcleg

enhanced diversity training.

It should be a good thing, but it sounds like room 101.

It's a polite way of saying to teach them how to be respectful.

I'd be mortified if I was sent for that.

This is what I mean about repercussions. Do you honestly think that will not affect their rep? Course it will.

But most places have unions, and if this was truly as clear cut no union would accept this. If they went on the training, it was obviously with due cause.

@Ereshkigalangcleg

The one and only thing I disagreed with was people saying teenagers don't know what a cervix was and I've been happily corrected.

Good on you for admitting your mistake.

I did it pages ago Eresh. Do you have to dig constantly?

@ListeningQuietly

The person had all SM responsibilities removed and was sent for enhanced diversity training. wrongthink I wonder which organisation organised that training

Let me guess.

Dramatic music.

Stonewall.

The source of all evil according to MN.

@Butwasitherdriveway

I agree

Im responding more to the many posters who told me I was scaremongering and making things up by suggesting this might not go well for people who air these views.

Unless you've namechanged on this thread, then you're posting on the wrong thread as you have not, not once, said anything about repercussions at work nor had anyone call you a scaremongerer.

Your first post under this name on this thread was to tell the OP that she was wrong to say she was coming out.

All your latest posts are in response to god knows what, because there haven't been any posters telling YOU that YOU are scaremongering.

Most of the workplaces I know do not have unions and where they do exist, from what I've seen they're fully signed up to gender ideology and would cheerfully throw you under for heresy. On this issue, I'd trust my CEO more than I would a union rep.

Prejudice presented as moral certainty

It's always easy to spin a belief into a positive position though isn't it.

I believe that everyone should have the right to identify how they choose and people should respect t.

When I write it like that, it's indisputable.

@Scepticaltank

Prejudice presented as moral certainty

It's always easy to spin a belief into a positive position though isn't it.

I believe that everyone should have the right to identify how they choose and people should respect t.

When I write it like that, it's indisputable.

Who am I prejudiced against?

@ThumbWitchesAbroad driveway has had too much afternoon sun and is also on a very similar thread about using pronouns and has confused the two

@Butwasitherdriveway

So we accept that having these views makes life difficult at work?

So why are we all pretending there would never be any consequence to this?

This post, for example - who on earth do you think you are disagreeing with? Nearly all posters prior to this post have agreed that there could well be negative consequences to the OP's actions, and that she was therefore brave to take the stand - I honestly have no idea what side you think you're on, because you're arguing in circles.

[quote Butwasitherdriveway]@ThumbWitchesAbroad driveway has had too much afternoon sun and is also on a very similar thread about using pronouns and has confused the two [/quote]
Crossposted with you.
That is the only thing that makes any sense.

My quest has consisted of finding out the organisation that designed the questionnaire
Does anyone know of any alternatives to Survey Monkey, i.e. that produce questionaires that don't conflate sex and gender?

Thanks Thumb.

Driveway is going to go and get a shower and a gin and remember to read titles before posting.

@Floisme

My quest has consisted of finding out the organisation that designed the questionnaire Does anyone know of any alternatives to Survey Monkey, i.e. that produce questionaires that don't conflate sex and gender?

Surveymonkey is merely a template. You can put in whatever question you want. It does not conflate sex and gender organisations using it do

Ah thank you! The one time I summoned up the nerve to query it, I was told they couldn't do anything about the wording as it wasn't theirs.
Now I need to think of a diplomatic way of going back to tell them they're um... wrong. That should go well

That's a bit of a bummer though. I had actually believed them....

Good luck Floisme.

Good thing there are courageous women fighting for women’s rights despite the fact that it’s an unpopular stance currently in many public arenas.