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Pregnant people?

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Trustisamust · 11/04/2021 03:12

So our local NHS Trust have finally updated their guidance re allowing partners to attend pregnancy scans etc.
They now refer to pregnant people, not pregnant women.
I don't know if I am being unreasonable here but this does not sit comfortably with me?

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PotholeHellhole · 11/04/2021 18:13

NiceGerbil

It appears to be an iPhone function. support.apple.com/en-us/HT207021

I do not have an iPhone. Many people do not have iPhones. In fact, I know of people who do not have smartphones at all, and use bricks with a text function.

Apparently, in an emergency when test results need interpreting, anyone who isn't an apple user is to going to be left to perish then? That's the official line now?

ASugarr · 11/04/2021 18:14

@StealthPolarBear

That's not an nhs thing. It's an apple feature.
Didn't say it was an NHS thing.
Erkrie · 11/04/2021 18:15

Jam thick people is fabulous. I have often thought of putting a link to it on threads just like this.

BaseDrops · 11/04/2021 18:15

Sorry I enjoy the hearts so I will continue to use them 🤍

I enjoy using the word woman to mean adult human female. So I will continue to do so.

PotholeHellhole · 11/04/2021 18:15

Oh, cross-post. So android users who've downloaded an app may live?

Screw those of us without smartphones though. And what if you have a smartphone, this health app installed, and have it set-up, but the phone battery is flat?

NiceGerbil · 11/04/2021 18:16

Do you really think it's a good idea to give the young people you work with the idea that they may not get the correct treatment in an emergency if they don't have an iPhone?!

RabbitOfCaerbannog · 11/04/2021 18:16

Interesting to note that weakness and submissiveness are traits with which at least some mtf transitioners identify.

Yes it is interesting.
*
I wonder if Nicola Sturgeon, Margaret Thatcher, Boudicca and Angela Merkel would have ever described themselves as weak and submissive.*

I suspect not. Almost as if women are many and varied and connected by a shared biology, but otherwise diverse human beings.

Erkrie · 11/04/2021 18:17

I don't have an apple phone. Oh no, how will the paramedics be able to tell who I am now? I'll have to go back to stitching the colour in a blouse. If only I knew what my colour was...

ASugarr · 11/04/2021 18:17

@BaseDrops

Sorry I enjoy the hearts so I will continue to use them 🤍

I enjoy using the word woman to mean adult human female. So I will continue to do so.

Okay cool.
NiceGerbil · 11/04/2021 18:17

I think that's a shit message to give to be honest. It undermines confidence in the NHS and it really rams home the sensitive area of wealth inequality.

ASugarr · 11/04/2021 18:17

@NiceGerbil

Do you really think it's a good idea to give the young people you work with the idea that they may not get the correct treatment in an emergency if they don't have an iPhone?!
Again, there isn't any first aid medical treatment someone has to give based entirely on someone's sex. Anything that may require that would have to be done by a paramedic.
ASugarr · 11/04/2021 18:18

@Erkrie

I don't have an apple phone. Oh no, how will the paramedics be able to tell who I am now? I'll have to go back to stitching the colour in a blouse. If only I knew what my colour was...
Well what situation would a first aider need to know your sex for? What specific first aid treatment requires someone to know your biological sex?
Erkrie · 11/04/2021 18:19

Yep that's pretty grim. You'd think a sexual health care worker would advocate on behalf of people to address this. But it seems this particular worker only advocates for the select few that fit into their fantasy world.

RabbitOfCaerbannog · 11/04/2021 18:20

What specific first aid treatment requires someone to know your biological sex?

Symptoms of heart attack for a start

PotholeHellhole · 11/04/2021 18:20

it really rams home the sensitive area of wealth inequality.

Certainly has to me. I have a chip on my shoulder the size of Blackpool Pier at the best of times, so I'll let you infer what degree of class rage I have going on now.

NiceGerbil · 11/04/2021 18:21

I'd try and assist a woman as best I could if she suddenly went into serious labour, while waiting for ambulance.

I understand that you'd step back from that situation with some kind of jobs worth idea but most people wouldn't.

DaisiesandButtercups · 11/04/2021 18:22

There is a definite feeling of being at the mad hatters tea party when gender ideologues make their unsubstantiated statements of belief as if they were fact and aren’t we so lucky now they have shared the “good news” with us we can be saved from the tyranny of old fashioned biological reality and go dancing into the brave new world where nothing means anything, all boundaries are blurred, glitter sparkles all around, unicorns feed from anyone’s hand, rainbows never fade, and we are infinite formless voids or whatever. Just another male centred belief system which puts the intangible purity of the unknowable soul as the highest value and despises the reality of women’s bloody, unpredictable, physical bodies.

We know only to well once we are adult women that we can’t identify out of being second class citizens on the basis of our reproductive anatomy. This fantasy is not for us. It never is.

NiceGerbil · 11/04/2021 18:22

My friend delivered her daughter's baby at home after the hosp said to go home

Happens more than you'd think.

Erkrie · 11/04/2021 18:23

What specific first aid treatment requires someone to know your biological sex

Heart attack.

ASugarr · 11/04/2021 18:24

@RabbitOfCaerbannog

What specific first aid treatment requires someone to know your biological sex?

Symptoms of heart attack for a start

www.redcross.org.uk/first-aid/learn-first-aid/heart-attack## isn't necessary to know their sex. Next?
RedDogsBeg · 11/04/2021 18:25

Well what situation would a first aider need to know your sex for? What specific first aid treatment requires someone to know your biological sex?

Perhaps you should educate yourself.

Whatwouldscullydo · 11/04/2021 18:25

Ectopic pregnancy
Miscarriage
Labour

ASugarr · 11/04/2021 18:25

@Whatwouldscullydo

Ectopic pregnancy Miscarriage Labour
You'd know their biological sex was female in those situations.
Whatwouldscullydo · 11/04/2021 18:26

A sore shoulder in a male would probably mean a pulled muscle.

Deferred shoulder pain however is a red flag for ectopic pregnancy

Sex vital to determine hospitalisation or an ice pack

ASugarr · 11/04/2021 18:27

@RedDogsBeg

Well what situation would a first aider need to know your sex for? What specific first aid treatment requires someone to know your biological sex?

Perhaps you should educate yourself.

Well no one has given any answers as to why a first aider needs to know someones sex. They can ask if they want to check their medical ID. But to be honest if the situation is that serious a paramedic needs to get there immediately and as a first aider you do what you can. Its pretty simple.