Pregnant people?

[Trustisamust]

So our local NHS Trust have finally updated their guidance re allowing partners to attend pregnancy scans etc.
They now refer to pregnant people, not pregnant women.
I don't know if I am being unreasonable here but this does not sit comfortably with me?

Woman: adult human female. Anything else is utter crap.

A transman having a GRC wouldn't change the fact that the reason they had a cervix was because they were female.

And as a PP has said, it could potentially be incredibly dangerous to use 'legal sex' when looking at patient information to treat someone.

@EastWestWhosBest

If they list a transman as male and dont do a pregnancy test they could die from a ruptured ectopic that would not be picked up.

This has happened.

That's why medical records ensure we have the sex from birth as well as their transgender status (as in where they are with their transition).

I cannot help but read all of ASugarr's posts in the voice of HAL the spaceship's computer in 2001: "I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that".

@EdgeOfACoin

We have a set of questions (not gender expression based) and go through the steps from there. But as part of confidentiality I can't discuss the full questionare and process on here.

Are you serious? There's a set of top secret questions to help unpick gender identity?

How on earth could such questions be confidential?

My organisation can't give out that information. You can see if another sexual health worker can however I'm not able to.

If trans men have a cervix then men have a cervix. Not all men understandably, but men do. Not all women have a cervix.

Transmen are biological women. Thus they generally, although not always, have a cervix.

Men are biological males. Thus they never have a cervix.

Transmen are not men. They are transmen. Big difference. All in the biology you see.

Tying yourself in knots to change language does not change the truth.

@Erkrie

If trans men have a cervix then men have a cervix. Not all men understandably, but men do. Not all women have a cervix.

Transmen are biological women. Thus they generally, although not always, have a cervix.

Men are biological males. Thus they never have a cervix.

Transmen are not men. They are transmen. Big difference. All in the biology you see.

Tying yourself in knots to change language does not change the truth.

Biologically female. Not women. Women is a gender term.

YABU

My organisation can't give out that information. You can see if another sexual health worker can however I'm not able to.

Actually your organisation can give out that information. You're just choosing not to because you know it will be seen as the horseshit that it is.

Then as am adult human female with no gender identity what am I?

Amd presented witg an unconscious patient how do you decide how to treat ?

My organisation can't give out that information. You can see if another sexual health worker can however I'm not able to.

How...convenient.

I assume you work in the public sector? What would happen if you received an foi request for that algorithm?

I'm repeating myself again so I'm leaving here. I'll leave some further information on the NHS guidelines and what each term means as people still don't seem to understand that the terms woman and man are gender terms. Meaning unless you identify as cisgender, they don't have connections to your biological sex.

Transmen cannot become priests in the Roman Catholic church even if they have a GRC and are considered to be legally male. A Catholic priest who transitions and becomes a transwomen with a GRC can still remain a priest, because in this case they are considered to still be male.

Just catching up

Asugarr 'gays'?

Really?!?

Bollocks! I'm 42, the words man and woman meant one thing for the first 35 years of my life. They're being hijacked. Well woman is anyway

Biologically female. Not women. Women is a gender term.

So what is the term for an adult human female then? You know, like mare, ewe, hen, doe etc?

I'm repeating myself again so I'm leaving here.

You're not 'repeating yourself' - there are fundamental questions on this thread, and another thread you were on today, that you have completely failed to even attempt to answer.

It doesn't matter how someone identifies.

Illness doesn't care how you identify or how rich you are or how nice you are.

It exists regardless and sex is relevant to how its treated.amd the.effects it has.

So if someone was unconscious or couldn't speak.or you had no translation,.how would.you determin.treatment and what ward to.place them

I'm repeating myself again

Agreed.

Dictionary:
Man adult human male
Woman. adult human female

Just leaving it here as people don't seem to understand the terms!

Lol, I'm not clicking on your educational links. Go get yourself qualified, employ a little more critical thinking and then maybe I'll consider it. Your self appointed role as an educator to women is not required because there is no truth value to the information you bring with you. It's about as useful as a cigarette advert telling us that cigarettes are healthy. That's not true either.

You're not 'repeating yourself' - there are fundamental questions on this thread, and another thread you were on today, that you have completely failed to even attempt to answer.

That's because they can't. Either they can't stretch their thinking that far, or know that if they did, then the flaws in their claims will be exposed. Under these circumstances it's clearly best to run.

Meaning unless you identify as cisgender, they don't have connections to your biological sex.

But I don’t identify as cisgender.