NeoPronouns / nounself pronouns?!!

[Waitingfor12th]

I read this article and really tried to keep an open mind, but towards the end my brain was fried!! Has anyone got their head around neopronouns? Or even heard of this? I admit I hadn't.

A 13 year old is quoted as saying their chosen pronouns are bink/bonk. Other popular ones include bun / bunself and kitten / kittenself. Apparently the responsibility is on the other person to look up the person's "Carrd" (a one page website describing their pronoun preferences) before addressing them, so that there is no excuse for the person being addressed incorrectly.

Some young people are literally using an emoji instead of a pronoun! Such as "where is 🐾" / "what does 🐾 say?". It reminds me of when Prince changed his name to a symbol. I was 15 when that happened and thought it was silly.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/08/style/neopronouns-nonbinary-explainer.html?referringSource=articleShare

@PotholeHellhole

Blimey. Sounds like your son isn't at the speaking stage yet. Have you considered the possibility that he may be amongst the children who have some level of problem with language development?

I have a child like this, who cannot consistently use sex-based pronouns as one would expect. I got called "he" all the time, and honestly, it's not a big deal to me. However, the chances that MiniPot would remember to call someone like the comedian Eddie Izzard by their requested pronouns are minimal. And in such a situation, I would be going in to bat for my child, not the incredibly rich celebrity.

Bestie what- lmao why are yall so pressed? If someone-of any age- wants to use neopronouns to feel more connected to their gender identity who are we to refuse to use said pronouns? Most neopronoun users I’ve come across also have “normal” ones such as she/her and he/him so if neos bother you that much just use another set of the persons chosen pronouns.Idc what you think,misgendering Someone is never okay-

If they also have "normal" ones it's clearly not that vital that anyone uses the paw print ones in order for them to connect to their gender identity.
What is bonk gender anyway, any ideas?

Pretty sure it has something to do with dogs carrying cricket bats.

I'm not put on this planet to validate the identity of others. Neo pronouns are self-indulgent nonsense. I refuse to use them.

And pronouns like 🐾/🐾 are called "online neopronouns" they aren't used irl but through text. If your struggling to wrap your head around it(I did too at first😅) think of it like this

No thanks, you're ok.

ND People can experience gender in different ways to neurotypicals.so,it makes them more comfortable to use pronouns such as void/voidself, gore/goreself, bink/bonk ect.

@Brenda07 please can you tell me how ND experience gender in different ways to NT? What does this actually mean in practice? How does using bink/bonk, gore/goreself help them express their gender? What kind of gender are they expressing when they use their pronouns?

,misgendering Someone is never okay-

Wow, to only have this level of problem in my life.

@StrangeLookingParasite

,misgendering Someone is never okay-

Wow, to only have this level of problem in my life.

Absolutely. You could literally only give it head space if your head was otherwise, erm... empty. Most grownups have actual lives to be getting on with.

Bestie what- lmao why are yall so pressed? If someone-of any age- wants to use neopronouns to feel more connected to their gender identity who are we to refuse to use said pronouns? Most neopronoun users I’ve come across also have “normal” ones such as she/her and he/him so if neos bother you that much just use another set of the persons chosen pronouns.Idc what you think,misgendering Someone is never okay-

If someone wants to use neopronouns they can absolutely do so. What they can't do is compel others to use them.

And what you call 'misgendering' I call 'identifying someone by their sex'. Potato, potahto.

This thread is a laugh riot!

My pronouns are thrrrrrp and silence.

The first one is pronounced like blowing a raspberry and the silent part you have to actually be silent and not say anything.

@transbadger

This thread is a laugh riot!

My pronouns are thrrrrrp and silence.

The first one is pronounced like blowing a raspberry and the silent part you have to actually be silent and not say anything.

. Love it.

StrangeLookingParasite

"Wow, to only have this level of problem in my life."

Exactly. They are going to get one hell of a shock when they go out into the real World. I wonder if they stress over pronouns and neopronouns in Yemen, Syria or Myanmar?

"If your struggling to wrap your head around it(I did too at first) think of it like this:"

• your

+ you're

I don't normally mention this kind of thing, because I consider it my responsibility to deal with the discomfort it causes me when people mess up their your and you're when talking to me.

But seeing as you're so dedicated to putting people at their ease when you use pronouns, I thought I'd mention it. I really don't care when people use he and him to talk about me on reddit and so on. I am more amused than anything else. It's mistakes with the second-person pronouns that causes me discomfort!

So remember that "you're" is short for "you [2nd-person pronoun] are [verb]". If you can mentally substitute "you are" in the sentence, you want you're, never your. The latter is a possessive adjective.

If it's never OK to misgender someone then it's to be hoped none of these neopronounites ever become primary school teachers. Between children who speak English as an additional language, very young children still learning basic verbal grammar and the fact that half of them call you 'mum' ... you get used to be being referred to in a way that doesn't 'better connect you to your own identity'.

And a word of warning for any female Non-binaries and transmen considering teaching as a profession, every male primary school teacher in the country can tell you they get called 'Miss'. On a pretty frequent basis. By children who are not especially young and are English monoglots.

the literal violence of children, eh?

Since when was making people comfortable a thing?
I teach primary. I've taught kids that wanted to be known as a minion (used the voice too, hilarious!) Kids that wanted to be fairies, have a 'street' name, respond to every question as pineapple, wanted to be called Princess etc.
Thankfully, we don't indulge in fantasy, we use given names or pet names agreed with parents. The day I have to remember 30 sets of neo pronouns is the day I and others leave teaching in droves.

What fun. Sigh. I think I’ll just dispense with pronouns and use names ..... well unless they are Elon musks poor kid I guess 😂

@againstterfsandtransphobes

Neopronouns are used as an alternative to they/them or binary pronouns because it makes people feel more comfortable. They are valid

Resurrecting a zombie thread, looking for reasons to be outraged. 'They are valid'... I love to seeing you use they for it's intended purpose. People who talk all the time about identity, always seem to be rather lacking in proper sense of self. That can't come from external validation. I find it invalidating being used as a prop to validate others. You are making me feel uncomfortable.

I wonder if people are declaring that they have their own verb conjugations as well as their own pronouns?

Je suis / tu es / il est / 👣 serent ???

People were doing this 10+ years ago when I was a teenager and used tumblr. It didn’t make sense to me then either.

Ah in my day we just had a MySpace nickname and page song.

Oh btw, would massively appreciate it if neuro-typical wasn't abused like that.
People who are not nt have actual struggles in life, like social and learning difficulties and body function challenges like cp. Wanting to be someone you're not does not make you non nt ie. disabled.