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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Anyone fancy co-parenting with LOJ?

307 replies

AdHominemNonSequitur · 03/04/2021 17:56

Owen Jones wants a baby, and would like a lesbian couple to impregnate. Any takers on mumsnet? He could be quite a catch for someone looking for a sperm donor and a co-parent to raise a well balanced child.
He got a bit of flack, so is doubling down on the the "anti-trans cult" and calling everyone homophobic.

Anyone fancy co-parenting with LOJ?
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Ereshkigalangcleg · 03/04/2021 17:59

Is he deliberately trolling women with that meme? Bizarre.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 03/04/2021 18:00

It looks to me like he's deliberately trying to wind people up and then attack them for it. It must be a slow news day for an eminent journalist!

AdHominemNonSequitur · 03/04/2021 18:09

I think he is attention seeking yes, you can't fight the good fight without an audience and an evil foe and he's been very quiet of late. The "hunting for broody lesbian couples" comment is recent but the "I am very jealous Caspar, I want to be a dad" comment was from 2014. He's shit stirring for sure.

It rings true though. I think he genuinely wants to find a womb to house and grow the twinkle in his eye.

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Bordois · 03/04/2021 18:12

Maybe he could prove his woke credentials and get a transman to 'coparent' with.

Mumoftwoinprimary · 03/04/2021 18:14

@Bordois

Maybe he could prove his woke credentials and get a transman to 'coparent' with.
Surely a trans woman would be better. TWAW after all. I see no reason at all why he can’t have a baby with a transwoman.
WeeMadArthur · 03/04/2021 18:16

So, is he a gay man, wanting to have a baby with a lesbian couple? If people are criticising that then how is it anti- trans if none of the people involved are trans? Or am I misunderstanding this?

Tibtom · 03/04/2021 18:17

He wants a lesbian couple so maybe two transwomen?

MadameKali · 03/04/2021 18:25

It's almost like he knows that only women can have babies. Which is weird.

KitchenFairy · 03/04/2021 18:28

I’m sure lesbian trans woman will be queuing up to bear the fruit of his loins - they are women after all, so it shouldn’t be a problem should it Owen?

EmpressWitchDoesntBurn · 03/04/2021 18:28

@WeeMadArthur

So, is he a gay man, wanting to have a baby with a lesbian couple? If people are criticising that then how is it anti- trans if none of the people involved are trans? Or am I misunderstanding this?
Owen Jones is very insistent that transwomen are women, & that lesbians who don’t welcome them to the community are bigots. But now he’s suddenly equating lesbians with biological women and appears blithely oblivious to his own hypocrisy.
Floisme · 03/04/2021 18:29

I sympathise with Owen Jones if he wants a baby. I mean that.

I find it frustrating when people are clear about what a woman is when they want a baby, but who claim it's complicated the rest of the time.

I am capable of holding both thoughts in my head at once.

allmywhat · 03/04/2021 18:30

I don’t see why GC people are mad at him (if they are really are) it’s not like he’s looking for a surrogate.

I personally wouldn’t choose OJ as a father for a child, she understated, but there are advantages to a known father over an anonymous sperm donor, so there’s nothing wrong with the idea in principle if he manages to find a lesbian couple who don’t know that personality is highly heritable.

allmywhat · 03/04/2021 18:32

Oh I see! It was explained while I was posting, I understand the criticism of him now.

EmpressWitchDoesntBurn · 03/04/2021 18:35

there’s nothing wrong with the idea in principle if he manages to find a lesbian couple who don’t know that personality is highly heritable.

Beautifully put.

AdHominemNonSequitur · 03/04/2021 18:35

@WeeMadArthur

So, is he a gay man, wanting to have a baby with a lesbian couple? If people are criticising that then how is it anti- trans if none of the people involved are trans? Or am I misunderstanding this?
Quite. You would think it would be homophobia, but no it's the TERFS again.
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HopeClearwater · 03/04/2021 18:35

Where’s Freddy when you need him?

EmpressWitchDoesntBurn · 03/04/2021 18:37

I have no problem in principle with a gay man & lesbians coparenting, I know a couple of families where that’s worked very well.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 03/04/2021 18:41

I have no problem in principle with a gay man & lesbians coparenting, I know a couple of families where that’s worked very well.

Me neither. I just think he's looking for a fight and deliberately goading women.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 03/04/2021 18:42

Where’s Freddy when you need him?

Yes, as a gay man he doesn't have to involve any women at all, there are men available!

Mummyoflittledragon · 03/04/2021 18:49

This thread is gold. It’s making my insides shrivel and I don’t have the relevant insides anymore... Yes, I’d love it if a bunch of transwomen queued up. But they wouldn’t, would they? Because they know deep down about biology.

Gibbonsgibbonsgibbons · 03/04/2021 18:53

Well I hope he’ll include all the lesbians with penises he’s so keen to affirm in his search Hmm

I had a VERY brief moment when I wondered if the biological reality of a women carrying & giving birth to his child might actually humble him Confused

EmpressWitchDoesntBurn · 03/04/2021 18:58

@Gibbonsgibbonsgibbons

Well I hope he’ll include all the lesbians with penises he’s so keen to affirm in his search Hmm

I had a VERY brief moment when I wondered if the biological reality of a women carrying & giving birth to his child might actually humble him Confused

Nah. He’d try to micromanage the entire pregnancy.
AdHominemNonSequitur · 03/04/2021 19:00

The inestimable value Owen jones would bring to any such arrangement is clearly not just the spaf. It is the once in a lifetime opportunity for the lucky lesbian couple to co-parent with him, because the two of them would not be sufficient.

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ArabellaScott · 03/04/2021 19:03

Haud me back.

OhHolyJesus · 03/04/2021 19:27

Would the surrogacy board for helpful for him do you think or would he not be able to stand it due to 'transphobia'?

There was a photo of him and a woman who wore a t shirt about sucking cock for fascism was it? I forget. Or maybe Ash Sakar could help, I mean does she need to be a lesbian or would a heterosexual womb do?

TBH he sounds like he's baiting and probably screenshotting right now.

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