Is this ok for my email pronouns

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My company has an auto filed message under our email signatures

Xxx asks colleagues, clients and partners to respect that my pronouns are ... ( I fill this)

I want to put.... Myname. Which is obviously female as Its a classic British name, but often clients I deal with in the EMEA areas write to me as my surname or Mr surname, just assuming I'm a man and you know what I just don't care. I don't want to write she/ they/ that/ wear a hat.

Not something I should have to think about?

I would ask someone to confirm in writing that this is mandatory.
I'd be tempted to declare mine as FUCK/THIS/SHIT but I'm guessing you want to keep your job

Xxx asks colleagues, clients and partners to respect that my pronouns are ...not relevant in the context of this email

Chi/chis/chisel.

Could HR be persuaded to offer staff a choice of signature:

Xxx asks colleagues, clients and partners to respect preferred pronouns where stated.

Or

Xxx asks colleagues, clients and partners to respect preferred pronouns. My preferred pronouns are (insert preferred pronouns).

This shows the company respects preferred pronouns without putting pressure on anyone who may feel uncomfortable about declaring pronouns for whatever reason.

I've got a training course soon on this shit and I'm worried we will have to state our pronouns in some zoom breakout group. My workplace is a stonewall champion.

I won't be stating pronouns but I also can't risk my job.
Is the consensus on here that 'I don't mind what you call me' or 'I'm not comfortable sharing my pronouns' the safest option? Both are true !

In your situation OP I would delete or leave blank.
God there are people at my work who would love to make this mandatory!

@tootyfruitypickle

I've got a training course soon on this shit and I'm worried we will have to state our pronouns in some zoom breakout group. My workplace is a stonewall champion.

I won't be stating pronouns but I also can't risk my job.
Is the consensus on here that 'I don't mind what you call me' or 'I'm not comfortable sharing my pronouns' the safest option? Both are true !

I was in a zoom meeting where someone had put their pronouns after his name on the Zoom window. Honestly I lost all respect for him and I really struggled to listen to him. Obviously sex based pronouns too. They do it to be an ally to trans and non binary people but I'm not sure it is what those people really want?

My pronouns are:
Awesome
Massive
Eternal
Steadfast
A societal construct
Protected
Lifelong
Inconsequential
Just right
Perfect

I worry they might try and compel us to do this. Mind you they’ve been trying to compel us to put profile photos for years and only half the company have 😂

Sex-based, like the oppression of women for millennia.

I have been getting ‘cold call’ emails from people. It doesn’t look professional and I am wary of doing business with people who I may find tricky to work with.

@toffeebutterpopcorn

I have been getting ‘cold call’ emails from people. It doesn’t look professional and I am wary of doing business with people who I may find tricky to work with.

Agree. I assume that anyone with preferred pronouns in their email signature is, at best, hard of thinking and, at worst, a misogynist. It's a useful red flag to avoid them.

I had similar recently and stated "my pronouns are commensurate with my biological sex"

I’m in all out war about this shite at work at the moment.

It’s aggressively misogynistic and only serves to further delete my sex by attempting to render it irrelevant.

@EmpressWitchDoesntBurn I was going to cite the Yogyakarta principles.

Op something like "announcing my pronouns would demonstrate that my company has breached article 6 of the Yogyakarta principles." Is what I'm planning to do when my organisation starts this bull Shit.

'For me to know, and you to find out' ?

This is a very good reason not to declare your femaleness at work!

www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/gender-inequality-man-woman-switch-names-week-martin-schneider-nicky-knacks-pay-gap-a7622201.html

My pronouns are....not mine to dictate.

The likelihood of someone using your pronouns whilst addressing you is so low, it's overtly aggressive to demand control over the words that come out of other people's mouths. It's also generally considered rude to refer to someone by the other third person pronouns when they're in earshot. Who's they, the cat's nibling?

Neither here / nor there

@Miaowse

Could HR be persuaded to offer staff a choice of signature:

Xxx asks colleagues, clients and partners to respect preferred pronouns where stated.

Or

Xxx asks colleagues, clients and partners to respect preferred pronouns. My preferred pronouns are (insert preferred pronouns).

This shows the company respects preferred pronouns without putting pressure on anyone who may feel uncomfortable about declaring pronouns for whatever reason.

This is an EXCELLENT suggestion.

I see a Sainsbury’s in Edinburgh has brought in pronouns on staff badges. Oh I can only imagine the reactions to that...

@toffeebutterpopcorn

I see a Sainsbury’s in Edinburgh has brought in pronouns on staff badges. Oh I can only imagine the reactions to that...

Urgh, that's ridiculous. I'm in Edinburgh too and now I'll look out for it the next time I'm in a Sainsburys. I hated wearing name badges when I worked in a supermarket but to have pronouns on your name badge as well is just crazy.

I really do have genuine sympathy for trans and non-binary people for whom accepting or struggling with their gender is a source of stress and challenge.

Perhaps it is my cis privilege that I do not face this same daily challenge.

But gender occupies such a small part of my consciousness. I am so much more than my gender. I am a parent, a mother, sister, daughter, wife, British, white, from a working class background, middle aged, shit at sport, bit overweight, drinks too much, impatient, an introvert, straight, a woman.....

None of this needs to be declared on a written form of communication in my workplace. None of it is relevant to what I am emailing you about or what you are emailing me about.

There are many things about me that I struggle to accept and that have caused me pain and distress over the years, including how I have been treated due to my sex.

Why the fuck should I have to declare any personal information about myself that I don't want to, including how comfortable or not I am with my gender, in my email signature?

Oh god now there’s ‘cis-privilege’ is there?!!

What with all my white-privilege alongside my cis-privilege I’m amazed I feel so shit most of the time. I should be bloody buzzing!!

C-Priveledge my arse. All I’m seeing is m-priveledge.