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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Is this ok for my email pronouns

171 replies

ohhmyown · 25/03/2021 12:37

My company has an auto filed message under our email signatures

Xxx asks colleagues, clients and partners to respect that my pronouns are ... ( I fill this)

I want to put.... Myname. Which is obviously female as Its a classic British name, but often clients I deal with in the EMEA areas write to me as my surname or Mr surname, just assuming I'm a man and you know what I just don't care. I don't want to write she/ they/ that/ wear a hat.

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Schoolchoicesucks · 25/03/2021 13:24

...that my pronouns are not relevant to my role

MixedUpFiles · 25/03/2021 13:26

I think the best approach is just manually deleting it every single time.

In response to your manager, I would just say that you are uncomfortable making a declaration of pronouns in the workplace. If pressed say that you would like to maintain privacy at this time. You might be doing it because drawing attention to the fact that you are female is harmful, but you will get further if you just keep it vague and play their game.

DayBath · 25/03/2021 13:26

" my pronouns are... irrelevant "

"My pronouns are... the default set"

"My pronouns are... accurate"

I mean it will probably get you fired though but it would be satisfying.

SnafuButGreyNow · 25/03/2021 13:28

This is appalling.

Where do you work OP? (Area of business, not company name I mean!)

I think @HavelockVetinari has raised some excellent points. What would the reaction be if you brought that argument to your manager?

NoSquirrels · 25/03/2021 13:28

'sex-based'

SnafuButGreyNow · 25/03/2021 13:29

@NoSquirrels

'sex-based'
'...like my oppression'
NoSquirrels · 25/03/2021 13:32

It's also absolutely fucking bonkers and there's no need for it on an email.

Because if you email someone, then they will reply to you with 'Your Name' as you have signed it. They're not replying in the third person.

And if they need to talk about you to someone else, they will say "your Name' has put me in touch/I was talking with Your Name' and won't be paying a blind bit of attention to the pronouns on your email signature. Who's got time for all that?

I'd go with just putting Your Name, I guess, and if challenged I would give the everyday sexism response to identifying pronouns further.

Shehasadiamondinthesky · 25/03/2021 13:32

I refuse to fill in any of that crap I'm sick of it.

TheBuffster · 25/03/2021 13:36

You/Your would be the most grammatically correct.

Sunhoop · 25/03/2021 13:36

Doesn't this sort of thing really happen?! What sort of industry are you in OP? I think it must look highly unprofessional to have cringey nonsense like that on a company email. I'd delete it and if asked explain you're not it comfortable with it/it's not relevant to your job.

Sunhoop · 25/03/2021 13:36

*Does

Chewbecca · 25/03/2021 13:38

It’s our default email footer too, I deleted it.

If ever challenged, I will challenge back with prefer not to say in some smart way (hopefully). I don’t think I will be though.

(Massive financial services company).

Sunhoop · 25/03/2021 13:38

In response to your manager, I would just say that you are uncomfortable making a declaration of pronouns in the workplace. If pressed say that you would like to maintain privacy at this time. You might be doing it because drawing attention to the fact that you are female is harmful, but you will get further if you just keep it vague and play their game.

I would do this.

PronounssheRa · 25/03/2021 13:40

@FightingTheFoo

Tree/Trim
It's a valid choice www.billboard.com/amp/articles/news/pride/8477100/keiynan-lonsdale-preferred-pronouns-tree
Chewbecca · 25/03/2021 13:40

You/your is not grammatically correct, nor is myname.

Pronouns are he/she/it/they etc.

ohhmyown · 25/03/2021 13:41

I work in brand marketing .. an fashion ( use that term loosely) international brand, not originally British. So it's in many countries, in some of these countries it's painful enough being a women advising ( telling them what they should do) there are many nuances for each market, but none so far care about pronouns apart from the UK operation.

I don't want to get the sack. I might find it easier to start identifying as a man though.

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Chewbecca · 25/03/2021 13:41

Actually, sorry, myname would be grammatically correct, wouldn’t it? Not a pronoun but works.

TheBuffster · 25/03/2021 13:42

The personal pronoun you is the second-person personal pronoun, both singular and plural, and both nominative and oblique case in Modern English. ... The possessive forms of you are your (used before a noun) and yours (used in place of a noun). The reflexive forms are yourself (singular) and yourselves (plural).

You is the correct form when speaking in second person. This would be the case in an email.

Eg. Dear Sir, I am writing to you to verify my pronouns are not relevant to my work.

ohhmyown · 25/03/2021 13:44

I just think,? I don't care, I often get referred to as he anyway, I doubt anyone will note what I put, but if they did surely people can write Myname said to spend 20 bucks on a reshoot with a local model instead of she/ he said.

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Chewbecca · 25/03/2021 13:44

I am way out of my depth on this grammar Grin

MagpiePi · 25/03/2021 13:45

I'd probably take them at their word and say my pronouns are all of these ......

www.thefreedictionary.com/List-of-pronouns.htm#:~:text=Pronouns%20are%20classified%20as%20personal,%2C%20yours%2C%20his%2C%20hers%2C0

idontlikealdi · 25/03/2021 13:51

Delete.

Simple:)

Joeblack066 · 25/03/2021 13:52

Why does it bother you? If your pronouns are she/ her why do you not want to add it to your email signature?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 25/03/2021 13:54

Why does it bother you that she doesn't want to?

humblesims · 25/03/2021 13:57

drawing attention to the fact that you're female has shown to have negative consequences in the way people treat you
I think this is very valid. If forced, I would put the opposite of what I am just to fuck about. I also have a very female name so I would put he/him. I would be interested to see if it made a difference to how I was perceived and treated

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