Reddit banning users for sharing Julie Bindel article

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twitter.com/bindelj/status/1374372934379204608?s=21
Julie Bindel has shared on Twitter that Reddit is banning any mention or sharing of her Spectator article & banning users for discussion Aimee Challenor/Knight as well.

Here’s the spec article
www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-green-party-s-growing-contempt-for-women-s-rights

[quote R0wantrees]Women such as Lisa Muggeridge raised the alarm about Aimee Challenor in 2018 with much better analysis than White:

[/quote] Brilliant. Thanks.

Lisa Muggeridge raised the alarm

This should be on every news channel. Right now.

Wiful blindness

@aliasundercover

Really Hibari? All this info available to you, and your conclusion is that Blair White is the problem.

Wilful blindness.

Bit of a disingenuous take, but I'll expand my statement a bit.

I have nothing to do with A.C. From what I can tell, she's a shit person and I can't think of anything remotely good to say about her. ...and since I first heard about her in 2019, I don't actually know anyone who has anything good to say about her.

That said:
Blair is also a shit person.

To be frank, "at least she's not a paedophile," is about the nicest thing I can say about her. I single her out because she's a fantastic example of something you want to avoid when dealing with situations like the one A.C. brings. When dealing with this kind of situation, it's important to stick to facts and avoid grifters because they're looking to sensationalise and or push an agenda for easy clicks.

Especially when people who had no involvement with her are getting doxxed. Not that a lot of this site are above using doxxing sites and throwing women you don't agree with to the wolves. I see a thinly veiled thread about it every few days after all.

Blair is also a shit person.

To be frank, "at least she's not a paedophile," is about the nicest thing I can say about her.

Thanks for pulling back the curtain and revealing how nasty and judgemental you truly are.

Thanks for the extra info @R0wantrees (and lovely to see you!)

Um.

Blaire is not the issue. Usually bang on. I think you've just smeared Blaire there with no actual proof.

Lisa is just bloody awesome and has always been absolutely right.

Lisa comments on her own video that she was targeted by AC. She says, at the time she was an adult and AC was a child. After everything, she recognised the trauma.

She describes many issues briefly that Professor Michele Moore does in greater depth in her videos and in the book inventing transgender children. (£10 on kindle now.)

These two women are social work trained/ focussed. And yet are also silenced and targeted.

I have a friend in academia who knows of/ worked alongside Michele and knows other academics who have denounced her and worry about presenting along side her at conferences.

These women are describing awful ways that the system is letting young people down under the umbrella of "trans identity."

That their targeting and silencing is allowed to happen is incredibly chilling.

(Lisa's other videos explain in much greater depth and are well worth watching for anyone new to this.)

That their targeting and silencing is allowed to happen is incredibly chilling.

Yes, indeed.

@TheRabbitOfCaerbannog

I attended a really interesting talk before Covid about how the male world of tech will disadvantage women for years to come because they have the power to shape the platforms and apps that dominate our lives. Panellists were arguing for coding to be on the curriculum to ensure that girls and women see it as a viable career option. I know it's been discussed on here before, but the power concentrated in small special interest groups (of men) is concerning.

This is exactly what we should be concerned about. AC is just one of many dubious individuals who are being protected by & employed by big platforms. Silencing criticism is very powerful & if Twitter had also silenced Julie Bindel then the truth would have struggled to be heard.

Got this off Glinner's site. Anyone heard of "the cotton ceiling?"
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The cotton ceiling is often talked about on here.

Some more detail for you Livinginthecity:

archive.fo/Vzfkh

That's from 2012 so that kind of stuff has been floating around for at least a decade, and probably longer. But then it's simply rebadging of a very old idea, lesbians removing their sexual availability from men is unjust and needs to be remedied.

Got this off Glinner's site. Anyone heard of "the cotton ceiling?"

January 2019 article by Ben (GNC Centric)
My Trans Youth Group Experience with Morgan Page
(extract)
Foreword

Many readers may be familiar with Morgan Page as the creator of the Planned Parenthood Toronto workshop “Overcoming the Cotton Ceiling: Breaking Down Sexual Barriers for Queer Trans Women” in 2012. I never heard about this before meeting gender critical feminists after leaving the trans community, years later. I honestly don’t remember anything like that topic coming up while I was in the youth group, although it may have.
<a class="break-all" href="http://web.archive.org/web/20120722002609/pleasureandpossibilities.com:80/programming/workshop-descriptions" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">web.archive.org/web/20120722002609/pleasureandpossibilities.com:80/programming/workshop-descriptions (continues)

I first met Morgan Page in 2012 at a conference for Gay-Straight Alliances from high schools in the greater Toronto area. Though I’ve since detransitioned, I identified as trans at that time, but I didn’t know any trans people in real life, only online. Morgan was a super nice, friendly person and invited me to the youth group she ran at The 519 in Toronto (LGBT Community Centre). Most of the time, the Trans Youth Group attendees were majority MTFs and “nonbinary” (NB) males. There was an upper age limit (somewhere between 21-25) but it was a pretty small group, usually fewer than 10 people; so when people aged out they just stuck around. I guess others learned that the age limit wasn’t being enforced because more and more older (30-40 year old) MTFs started to join.

I remember one day, there were three MTFs over 40 who were hitting on the teen FTMs, very explicitly. It was obviously making us uncomfortable, but almost no one ever said anything, only changed the topic or tried to engage them in a conversation away from us. The only time I remember them being asked to leave was when Morgan was away and the group was led by an FTM substitute.

It was very common for the group to discuss the logistics of sex before and after SRS, kinky sex, and erotic fanfiction. I remember Morgan asking the three teens in the room, including me, if we were comfortable talking about this, but obviously we weren’t going to say no now that the conversation had already been started by these older people. I know of at least three FTMs who entered into relationships with older MTFs while in this group, all of which seemed very unhealthy to me. To me, FTMs under 18 dating or sleeping with (usually kinky) MTFs over 20 seemed very sexually exploitative. Healthy boundaries between adults and minors were foreign to this group, much like in the greater queer and trans community.

Morgan didn’t present herself as someone to emulate, but as someone to share her trans experiences with us. She spoke of her time as a teen prostitute, her SRS, her art, her writing, and her connections in the queer community. I think most of the teens saw her as someone to just give us advice and support, since she could recommend which clinics or doctors to see to start HRT and tell you what you needed to say to doctors so they’d sign off on SRS. She’d talk about what to expect after SRS. She knew the MTF side personally, but she also was intimate with a fair number of trans men so she told us about the FTM side too. At the time, to me, she seemed like the magic key to accessing all the medical transition resources I wanted. This was a trans support group, so one might assume this was normal—and it may have been for such a gathering—but in retrospect, I find elements of this concerning.

Unsurprisingly, most of the teens seemed to be there without their parents’ knowledge (as I was), but there was unquestioning support for all of them to medically transition as soon as they wanted. (continues)
4thwavenow.com/2019/01/26/my-trans-youth-group-experience-with-morgan-page/

See also Ben's interview with Benjamin Boyce
14 Mar 2019

'Coercion & Abuse in the Gender ID Community | with ⚢ GNC-Centric ⚢'

NB GNC Centric's twitter account was an early victim to Twitter TRA targeted reports and she was banned as a consequence.

I posted this yesterday on another thread, but seems relevant here (mostly because it's become a total earworm as I'm seeing things that trigger the thought everywhere)

Oh is there not one maiden breast
which does not feel the moral beauty
of placing worldly interest (such as their personal sexual orientation, feelings, privacy, dignity, independence of thought)
subordinate to sense of duty?

Written in 1879, Gilbert and Sullivan taking the mickey out of Victorian society. Plus ca bloody change.

Male people have always had strong views about women wishing to... 'gatekeep their vaginas' I think is the modern SJ way we're supposed to put it?

I was thinking GNC Ben's Benjamin Boyce interview was very pertinent here, thanks R0

I personally know of two other detransitioned women who were groomed when younger by MTF older people.

I hope they have managed to come through it physically ok.

I was thinking GNC Ben's Benjamin Boyce interview was very pertinent here

It is.

LangCleg wrote Thu 21-Feb-19

"How did the scandal of TV entertainers grooming and exploiting children get so bad before anything was done?

How did the scandal of Catholic priests grooming and exploiting children get so bad before anything was done?

How did the scandal of on-street gangs grooming and exploiting children get so bad before anything was done?

Because if you create a sacred caste of any group and silence anyone asking questions about individuals on behalf of the sacred caste, abusers will see, infiltrate, and groom and exploit children. That''s how."

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3512177-Julia-Long-asking-Munro-Bergdorf-about-child-exploitation?pg=12

Quite, thanks for the links R0

@WarriorN

I personally know of two other detransitioned women who were groomed when younger by MTF older people.

I know two trans men who were groomed by trans women when they were teenagers. The trans women were over 30 and held a sort of an unofficial mentor position in the local LGTB organisation. They were also eager to teach the young 'uns about "trans sexuality".

Ugh that's awful.

I've just come across this re gender identity and trauma or attachment difficulties:

www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2020.582688/full

Going back to men in IT and how it's skewing every platform and websites on the internet, Brotopia: Breaking Up the Boys' Club of Silicon Valley by Emily Chang is a depressing read.