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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Superstraight

999 replies

Xanthangum · 06/03/2021 05:31

Superstraight is trending on twitter. No I hadn't either.

Its a subcategory of straight that means that straight people can now be included in the lgbtqi+ categories. Or something. Hooray! Fight for my superstraight rights too Stonewall!. Or something

twitter.com/supa_str8/status/1368003836863000576?s=20

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Blibbyblobby · 08/03/2021 11:01

@ErrolTheDragon

Why can't people just accept that it's fine to be homosexual, it's fine to be homogenderal, and it's fine to be heterosexual or heterogenderal and it's fine to have any other permutation or combination that you happen to be. So long as it's freely consenting adults it's all good.

The only reasons not is if you want to coerce other people to act against their own sexuality. Men trying to 'convert' lesbians (be it straight men or transbians) are being coercively homophobic. It's (literally) fucking conversion therapy.

They can’t accept it because they don’t believe sex exists. If they accept it, then sex exists.

Of course, individually they do know sex exists, but they believe they only “see” it because they’ve been conditioned to see it by the dominant culture, and in reality it doesn’t exist. So they need to pretend not to know it exists so that it eventually disappears from cultural narratives and will not exist at all.

nauticant · 08/03/2021 11:05

Detransitioners do not have a common perspective about what they've been through. Some view their experience as medical malpractice and some say they view their transition, and then subsequent detransition, as a positive thing that they're glad they went through. I suspect the latter group are fooling themselves to some degree to avoid acknowledging what's been done to them and risking another mental health crisis.

MoleSmokes · 08/03/2021 11:15

[quote ChancesWhatChances]@langclegflavoredbananamush slight derail sorry, but is there anything we can do to help detransitioners voices be heard about the TRA’s? I know there’s someone on these forums that set up a webpage for trans widows, possibly there’s someone here that’s a detransitioner themselves (or is close to someone that has detransitioned) and could do the same?[/quote]
There are already a number of Detrans Groups and websites, eg.

The Detransition Advocacy Network

www.detransadv.com

Resources:

www.detransadv.com/resources

Reddit r/detrans

Over 18K members

www.reddit.com/r/detrans/

MoleSmokes · 08/03/2021 11:21

This is still growing! r/superstraight now has 16.1K members with 2.4K online right now Smile

Guide to "super-sexuality" by a Lesbian Muslim in the USA:

What is Super-sexuality? A guide to Super

Over the past few weeks, a discovery in gender and sexuality has broken new barriers against gender oppression. Due to existing genders and sexualities no longer adequate to describe the identity of people who are attracted to natal born sexes.

Kyle Royce, a teenage TikTok user, coined the revolutionary term of Superstraight went on to explain how as a man, who identifies himself by his natal sex, Kyle is not attracted to transgender women. He agreed that Straight people are people who are attracted to GENDER and so are attracted to women who are transgender and cis-gendered women, however, he soon let the cat out of the bag, Kyle is not attracted to Gender, he is attracted to biological sex and that his orientation could only be described as Superstraight.

For many people, this declaration was a sign of liberation and many new sexualities arose in Superlesbian, Supergay, and Superbi. These sexualities all have the same commonality, that the individual rejects gender in its totality, and sees themselves, their identity rooted in the biological fact of their sex. Simply put, Supers are not people who define themselves by a gender identity but by sexual characteristics that are completely separate from gender.

Simply put, a Super is not attracted to the Gender Identity of Male or Female. This is because the Gender Identity of males and females is based on gendered behavior. A woman is a woman if they conform to gender stereotypes of what is a woman but this is deeply problematic, as a Super's identity is not rooted in Gender. The Identity of a Super and thus the attraction of Supers is based completely on recognizing biological sex. This means that since a Cis-gendered woman, a natal-sex woman who chooses to embrace her gendered identity, and Superwomen, women who identify themselves solely by their biological sex are the only form of a woman a Superstraight male or Superlesbian female is attracted to. Super in other words aligns with their gendered analogs but differs as gender expression simply does not matter.

For an American Muslim, the super identity and Superstraight sexual orientation align with my Islamic values, as the Q'uran teaches that God made Adam, male, and Eve, female, and their difference came from their biological sex. Adam bore the seed and Eve bore the child. For a Muslim, I am not attracted to the Western Centered Gender Stereotypes that many straight women entail. Gender Identity is not the basis of my attraction to women and to ask me to make my sexual orientation "inclusive" is to ask me to disbelieve the word of my own God, and to make me renounce a very important part of my faith.

Since our liberations, Supers have not been met by kindness or open arms of the LGBTQ community but with scorn and death threats. SERFs, Superphobic Exclusionary Regressive Fanatics have arisen who demand our sexual orientations be "made inclusive" otherwise they threatened they would kill us because we are "transphobic". This raises the question, is why do Serfs feel emboldened to attack valid sexual identities and demand that people of faith must renounce their religious beliefs? In their quest for Inclusion, the Serf makes a demand that cannot be made, the utter erasure of our identity and sexual orientation.

The New Conversion therapy is a crafty one, for we Supers are under assault and told that our sexuality and identity must be rooted in gendered identities, but our Gender Identity, Super, like Non-binary, does not find identify Gender, and goes further, we again are not attracted to Gendered Behavior, but to sex. This has lead many of Serfs to demand that we either be "inclusive" or face their wrath, but what kind of choice is this? To threaten us with death, with de-platforming, and shame is coercion and a terrifying form of rape culture. Not just this but the majority of Gendered Identity-based Sexualities are already inclusive to Trans women, such as Gay, Lesbian, Bi, Pansexual, and Straight. To demand that a Superlesbian must be attracted to a Trans woman is to tell a Superlesbian that her Sexual Orientation and her gender is not valid. In other words, convert and be erased or die. This is what the SERFs subject us to.

Even now, we are under unprecedented assault by SERFs who wish to silence us on social media. This cannot be allowed. Super-sexuality is real and is a liberation from the oppression of Gender Identity that allows us to realize OUR TRUE SELVES. We will not be erased, we will not be bullied, and we will not take this sitting down. We are Super and we are Proud! We are here and we aren't going anywhere!!

www.reddit.com/r/SuperStraight/comments/m0ace1/what_is_supersexuality_a_guide_to_super/

Archived: archive.is/WfJKi

PopperUppleton · 08/03/2021 11:27

I'm Super and I'm proud! I've finally got something to put in the census which will probably confound the stats but at least it will be 100% accurate.

nauticant · 08/03/2021 11:28

Looking at the language used, it reminds me in some ways of a corporate press release, I suspect that was written by someone having their tongue firmly in their cheek. But also with serious intent.

That's important here, a serious message being delivered with good humour in the face of hatred and death threats in front of an audience including many seeing this stuff for the first time.

PurpleHoodie · 08/03/2021 11:48

(it does seem to be teens/young adults who are the most unpleasant)

No.

The tweenies are sounding off on - theatrical hands meeeeeeedia multi coloured social media slash avatar/slash anime/tranime/ platforms *

And that's because the REAL dangerous people are the grooming, +MAP (paedophile/nonce) posters who are late twenties/thirties into 80s age)

Let's have it straight*

Let's have it straight that a child in America spoke the truth. It was shared. His family are now receiving death threats (USA MNetters, share this fact with your local/State/Federal authorities)

*Excuse the pun

PurpleHoodie · 08/03/2021 11:50

Which takes us neatly back to publically elected politicians in the UK and the other FWR threads that are currently going on in the last 7 pages.

MoleSmokes · 08/03/2021 11:55

They are handling incursions from bad-faith actors pretty well, so far.

TRA posts get deleted if they threatening or being goady f&ckers while receipts of threats, etc. are posted for comment.

They are also having to deal with 4chan trolls posting unpleasant stuff to smear them.

Meanwhile, there are "well-wishing" posts from friendly trans people who are sick of being misrepresented by gender extremists - who, as we all know, are often not trans but just MRAs hitching a ride.

TartrazineCustard · 08/03/2021 12:26

@Ereshkigalangcleg

He said: “Super straight means you think that men who date trans women are less straight, meaning that trans women are men, and therefore not real women. Which is not only transphobic, but scientifically inaccurate.”

Grin

I don't think "scientifically inaccurate" means what they think it means. Grin
PurpleHoodie · 08/03/2021 12:29

So - gay.

MoleSmokes · 08/03/2021 12:30

[quote ChancesWhatChances]@MoleSmokes I took a look at the subreddit you linked and found this exceptionally disturbing article linked within the thread. It’s absolutely no wonder we’ve reached this point with these pedophiles (disguising themselves as TRA’s) in politics.

grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/ashton-challenor-the-boy-who-disappeared[/quote]
You can subscribe to that substack for free - very useful, if sometimes disturbing, updates.

PurpleHoodie · 08/03/2021 12:45

Never change your "look" MNHQ. No matter how many blokes rail against it.

A womens "plain" speaking, full English language/other UK language, and dialects section REALLY riles the.... infiltraters.

Truthlikeness · 08/03/2021 12:49

Serf and Terf, anyone?

SheldonesqueIsUnwell · 08/03/2021 12:54

Perf with t**f?

MoleSmokes · 08/03/2021 13:04

Trust a SuperTrans SuperAlly to go the whole hog on the naming of the parts Grin

"Know Your SuperTerms Terminologies"

SuperFolk :
General Identifier for A historically Oppressed People Group for their sexuality by nonS (nonSupers). It encapsulate all the people who are SuperSexual, SuperStraight, SuperGay, SuperLesbian, SuperBi, SuperTrans, SuperQ+ and their Allies (known as SuperFreinds)

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SuperKin
General Identifier for SuperSexual people group minus their nonS Allies.

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SuperFam
General Identifier for supportive relatives, personal friends and families of SuperFolk.

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SuperSexuals
A group of people identified by their sexuality based on their sexual attraction and preference to a specific people group within the SuperKin.

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SuperStraight
A group of people identified by their sexuality based on their sexual attraction and strict preference to their biologically opposite sex.

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SuperMen
A subgroup of SuperStraight. It is a label to identify people born and live as biological males who are sexually attracted to only people born and live as biological females.

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SuperWomen
A subgroup of SuperStraight. It is a label to identify people born and live as biological females who are sexually attracted to only people born and live as biological males.

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SuperGay
It is a label to identify people born and live as biological males who are sexually attracted to only people born and live as biological males.

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SuperLesbian
It is a label to identify people born and live as biological females who are sexually attracted to only people born and live as biological females.

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SuperBi
It is a label to identify people born and live as biological males & females, who are sexually attracted to only people born and live as biological females & males.

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SuperTrans
It is a label to identify people are binary transgendered, who are strictly sexually attracted to other binary transgendered people. They are SuperTrans because of their non attraction to biological males & females and non binary transgendered people.

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SuperQ
It is a label to identify people born and live as biological females & males who are sexually curious to only people born and live as biological males & females.

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SuperQ+
It is a label to identify other smaller groups of SuperKin, whose sexuality is similar to their non-Super counterparts but are limited within the SuperKin.

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nonS
It is a term used to define people group that are not Super. This term shall replace the conventionally used the cis-het nomenclature that is now outdated and not inclusive enough to accommodate supersexuality. Examples: nonS Straight, nonS Gay, nonS Lesbian, nonS Trans etc.,
Alternative Terms for nonS include : NULLS and DEF

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Trancels
Short form of trans incels. It is a group of abusive and hateful bigots of trans community who thinks they are owed sex from SuperKin and have festered hate towards SuperKin which is Super not okay. They make violent threats against SuperFolk and are proponents of rape culture. They are a potential danger to a peaceful and inclusive society that does not encourage rape culture, hate and bigotry based on individaul sexuality and identity. It is widely known that members of trancel community created fake hateful posts on 4chan to incite superphobia by trying to attribute SuperSexuality to Hitler and Nazis. 4chan has a recorded history of doing the same to other vulnerable people groups by spreading misinformation such as "Hitler was Gay", "Hitler was Trans" etc., "Hitler was SuperKin" is their new attempt at trolling and spreading hate.

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Transplaining
It is a hate crime committed by nonS trans people who are ignorant of SuperSexuality. It is like mansplaining but a billion times worse. Transplaining is when an ignorant nonS trans person assumes and attributes what a person's sexuality should be disregarding the person's personal preferences. They make ignorant assumptions and draw dangerous conclusions that is highly non inclusive and bigoted towards SuperKin. This reaction to SuperSexuality by nonS trans is very similar to assumptions and conclusions of Westborough Baptist Church to LGBTSQ+ community or the KKK's to the POCs. It is a hate crime and disgusting practice and it should be treated the same as any other violent hate crime. Transplainers are hateful bigots and are a threat to inclusive and democratic society. The best way to address transplainers is to immediately de-platform them to prevent them from spreading further hate and toxicity for creating a safe and accepting environment both online and IRL.

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Superphobia
It is the irrational fear and hate towards SuperKin usually by nonS people. Superphobia is detremental to an inclusive society and hence should be dealt with utmost disdain in order to squash it to create a safe and accepting environment to vulnerable SuperKin.

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SERN
Abbreviation of SuperKin Exclusionary Radical Nons. A radical nonS person who holds bigoted views towards SuperKin and are usually abusive and known to send death threats and possibly physically assault and rape SuperKin. They also practice hate crimes such as transplaining or nonSplaining. These are dangerous individuals and are known to spread hateful propaganda on social media against SuperFolk to spread Superphobia. SRA's (SuperKin ZRights Activists) must press an united effort to counter SERNs and de-platform them.

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Other Notable terms used in SRA safe space:

SuperFriends: General Allies of SuperKin, can be used interchangeably with SuperFolks

trableists/ism : the practice of using superphobic and ableist slurs agains Superkin by nonS and nonS Trans SERNs.

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Compilation By: SuperCutey69😍🥰👧🏾🧜🏾‍♀️💃🏾💅🏾💋❤🧡🖤

I am a SuperTrans MtF Woman and I am strictly attracted to other SuperTrans FtM and MtFs. Sorry Biological folks, my body my choice 😘🥰.

I am a SRA (formerly TRA but I always felt it was not inclusive enough).

Sylvia Rivera, Christine Jorgensen, Caitlyn Jenner, Kamala Harris and Hillary Clinton are my personal heroes.

SERNs and Bigots take a hike.

pastebin.com/gwb5wuSW

(Needs to remember "'i before e except after c when the sound is ee" Smile

titchy · 08/03/2021 13:11

@Truthlikeness

Serf and Terf, anyone?
GrinGrinGrin
SirSamuelVimes · 08/03/2021 13:14

Thanks for that @MoleSmokes I am creasing up at "transplaining" GrinGrinGrin

Soubriquet · 08/03/2021 13:16

Superheadache. What I get trying to read every single post Smile

guinnessguzzler · 08/03/2021 13:21

@Truthlikeness

Serf and Terf, anyone?
The moment you realise that everything that has happened over recent years has simply been designed to get us to this punchline Grin.
DisgustedofManchester · 08/03/2021 13:30

I guess Straight pride will now be Super Straight Pride now... a 4Chan parody using pornhub branding has gone viral... it is very amusing.

nauticant · 08/03/2021 13:44

It was a tiktok pisstake. 4Chan didn't get involved until after it went viral, a week or so later when everyone was joining in.

But you're right that it is very amusing.

langclegflavoredbananamush · 08/03/2021 14:07

Thanks @MoleSmokes for posting the detrans links in answer to @ChancesWhatChances 's question.

back to Superstraight

I guess I can't identify as Superstraight because I could imagine myself dating a gender critical transwoman (ala Miranda Yardley). I guess I'll have to invent a sexuality that includes males who realize they are male, and males who would rather be women but realize they are male, but excludes males who identify as cis and all females. XYnoWooWoo attracted?

MoleSmokes · 08/03/2021 14:41

@langclegflavoredbananamush

Thanks *@MoleSmokes for posting the detrans links in answer to @ChancesWhatChances* 's question.

back to Superstraight

I guess I can't identify as Superstraight because I could imagine myself dating a gender critical transwoman (ala Miranda Yardley). I guess I'll have to invent a sexuality that includes males who realize they are male, and males who would rather be women but realize they are male, but excludes males who identify as cis and all females. XYnoWooWoo attracted?

Oh! You are so close to being a SuperWoman, what with Miranda preferring male pronouns! Grin

SuperWomen
A subgroup of SuperStraight. It is a label to identify people born and live as biological females who are sexually attracted to only people born and live as biological males.

For any SuperLesbians here - the SuperPeople have cocked a snook at those who stole the plural version and have founded . . . Tah dah!! . . . r/super_lesbian !
www.reddit.com/r/super_lesbian/

And . . . r/super_bisexual
www.reddit.com/r/super_bisexual/

Not forgetting . . . r/Supergay
www.reddit.com/r/Supergay/

How long they will last before the Superphobes get them taken down is anyone's guess.

MoleSmokes · 08/03/2021 14:46

@DisgustedofManchester

I guess Straight pride will now be Super Straight Pride now... a 4Chan parody using pornhub branding has gone viral... it is very amusing.
They are also being accused of using Grindr colours - not that I am familiar with either Grindr or PornHub so I wouldn't know.

Every time the accusations come up they just say, "So what?"

So refreshing that they really do not give a toss! Grin

All of the sub-groups have got their own colours - the SuperLesbians have got Suffragette colours Star

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