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Superstraight

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Xanthangum · 06/03/2021 05:31

Superstraight is trending on twitter. No I hadn't either.

Its a subcategory of straight that means that straight people can now be included in the lgbtqi+ categories. Or something. Hooray! Fight for my superstraight rights too Stonewall!. Or something

twitter.com/supa_str8/status/1368003836863000576?s=20

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7Days · 07/03/2021 16:15

I'm not afraid of alt right smears any more.

Like a lot of labels, it means nothing now
Overuse

WoolOfBat · 07/03/2021 16:16

I think it is inclusive as well. Nobody should have their sexuality imposed on them. Everyone is allowed their sexual orientation.

Without having to go into long discussions about how that sexual orientation possibly has originated in some societal structures. Possibly resulting in being told that said sexuality is invalid.

All sexual orientations are valid, nobody is owed sex. I cannot believe that this even is an issue.

jj1968 · 07/03/2021 16:17

What, superbi? Of course not, because not all non-trans people are gender-conforming.

How do you tell the difference? Say you really fancy someone gender nonconforming and then they tell you they are trans or nonbinary? Would that mean the attraction would immediately vanish for a super bi person?

nauticant · 07/03/2021 16:18

Anyway, I'm done pointing out the dishonesty that's this is all about the alt-right. It's like arguing with a bot from a Russian troll farm.

Kettlingur · 07/03/2021 16:18

@7Days

I'm not afraid of alt right smears any more.

Like a lot of labels, it means nothing now
Overuse

Yeah, that shark has been jumped.

I give no fucks.

OvaHere · 07/03/2021 16:19

@nauticant

The annoying thing about the alt-right slurs is that this imposes a narrative on top of the reality of what's happened. The tiktok video went viral because it spoke to a wider variety of different groups who recognised in it some unfairness they were already aware of. Fundamentally that people wanting to adhere to their own sexual orientation were, because of this, being accused of transphobia. Added to that, many of them were able to see that arguing against such an accusation was likely to lead to a social media punishment beating which made the unfairness even worse.

Some one spoke up. In this case it doesn't matter who. Many people took the message, fitted it into the unfairness they were seeing, and it went viral and now there's an ad hoc coalition (where the disparate groups are barely even communicating with each other) where people are feeling reassured that, amazingly, this unfairness is widely recognised, even by others that they would struggle to get along with. As a result there's now an umbrella under which people can push back against the unfairness for once not feeling isolated and powerless.

Then we get told that it's being orchestrated by the alt-right. Which is frankly insulting and gaslighty.

Exactly. For something to go viral it has to capture a sentiment that huge numbers of people can relate to, no matter the source. Which is what happened here.

I've no doubt that within about a week the sub reddit will go to shit because it's largely filled by men who like trolling and some of them will inevitably go too far. On top of that it will be brigaded and raided by other subs who want to see it taken down. We all know by now how this game plays out.

However it's been an illuminating 24hrs that has held a mirror up to the worst of social media behaviours done in the name of trans activism. That alone will given many people pause to think.

WarOnWomen · 07/03/2021 16:21

@nauticant

Anyway, I'm done pointing out the dishonesty that's this is all about the alt-right. It's like arguing with a bot from a Russian troll farm.

Have a drink. Wine.

It's exhausting just reading it so sympathies. Plus your description made me laugh.

PurpleHoodie · 07/03/2021 16:22

So.

Back to #SuperStraight.

It's really good to see young people are still able to apply critical thinking skills.

That offline, they are still creating relationships how they want to.

They are recognizing that creepy as - older people 20s/30s/40s+ are pushing at their sexual boundaries, and they are well within their rights to say "no".

You see it on these threads. Creeps. Insisting on tearing down boundaries.

RozWatching · 07/03/2021 16:23

@jj1968

What, superbi? Of course not, because not all non-trans people are gender-conforming.

How do you tell the difference? Say you really fancy someone gender nonconforming and then they tell you they are trans or nonbinary? Would that mean the attraction would immediately vanish for a super bi person?

Well, how do transbians who reject other transbians tell the difference?
twelly · 07/03/2021 16:24

Just because someone has a different view doesn't mean they are "trolling" many people have more conservative/traditional views- they are allowed. The trolling accusation is also a slur

Blibbyblobby · 07/03/2021 16:24

But LGBT solidarity, and indeed the term itself, was a recognition of a shared oppression. To include straight people in that, whether you drop the T or not, erases that oppression.

Like how women's rights, indeed feminism itself, are a recognition of shared oppression, and to include males in that, whether T or not, erases that impression?

nauticant · 07/03/2021 16:25

Yes, it's been an illuminating 24 (+counting) hours in which people who had no idea about all this stuff just happened to be looking in the right direction when the curtain was pulled aside. Not only did this show the trans activists having an extremely ugly side, but also there was no one from that lot who was making any efforts to ask whether they were being the baddies.

aliasundercover · 07/03/2021 16:25

What, superbi? Of course not, because not all non-trans people are gender-conforming.

How do you tell the difference?

!!!!!

Is jj finally coming to a realisation?

LadyFuHao · 07/03/2021 16:26

I find it fascinating that some people think that this is an alt right movement when it is quite clear that almost all 'super' posts, tweets and comments are using the same words, phrases, images, and memes of the community it is holding up a mirror to.

If the copied image is 'alt right and distasteful' then what does that make the original?

Freespeecher · 07/03/2021 16:28

The tweets of that Paisley fellow a few pages back illustrate the frustrations of an element of the Left who'd like nothing more than to reduce this down to Left v Right (or, more hyperbolically, Left v Nazi) only to find those pesky women in the way as they don't define their universe in the hackneyed Left v Right paradigm and instead place their own interests first.

Slightly different for me in that Liberals used to be more aligned with the Left (generally happier with a higher tax rate for education, health etc) only to find the Left's creeping authoritarianism coming into conflict with the importance we place on civil liberties, all of which leaves both women and displaced Liberals looking at their Speccie subscription and wondering how we ended up here.

Anyway, normal procedure is for someone to sum it all up in, ooh, ten words or so, hence I'll return to observing the thread.

WanderinWomb · 07/03/2021 16:28

I doubt all the black and mixed race USA tiktokers making clips all week are part of the alt right/4chan axis.
Nor all the leftie UK Superlesbians and Supergays.
In particular straight men and lesbians are just sick of being called bigots for not lining up to worship the female penis
Of course the right (centre, far and alt) are going to steal and run with this, the left are leaving a massive open goal for them

You are flailing trying to link superfeminists to Nazis. I'm concerned you may do yourself an mischief with that level of contortion. Make sure to do warm up stretches first.

Loving all my superfeminist sisters.

nauticant · 07/03/2021 16:28

If only WarOnWomen. But booze is only permitted on Friday and Saturday night or on trips out to dinner or the theatre. However, I'll raise a glass this coming Friday to the fine folk under the #super umbrella.

titchy · 07/03/2021 16:29

How do you tell the difference? Say you really fancy someone gender nonconforming and then they tell you they are trans or nonbinary? Would that mean the attraction would immediately vanish for a super bi person?

Well yes. What's so difficult to understand? You can fancy someone, then find out they're a racist granny-mugger, and the attraction is gone in a flash. Does that not happen to you then?

BoreOfWhabylon · 07/03/2021 16:29

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adviceseekingnamechanger · 07/03/2021 16:32

@Blibbyblobby

But LGBT solidarity, and indeed the term itself, was a recognition of a shared oppression. To include straight people in that, whether you drop the T or not, erases that oppression.

Like how women's rights, indeed feminism itself, are a recognition of shared oppression, and to include males in that, whether T or not, erases that impression?

An excellent point
PurpleHoodie · 07/03/2021 16:37

Well.

It's LGB solidarity. And now the Ss are indicating their allyship.

Solidarity.

jj1968 · 07/03/2021 16:37

Well, how do transbians who reject other transbians tell the difference?

I'm not really familiar with trans lesbians who would reject other trans women because I don't think many exist but I suspect they would also reject a gender non conforming man.

Anyone looking forward to the Paris Lees and Monroe Bergdorf thirst posts from the newly out super straight women.

Helleofabore · 07/03/2021 16:40

Like how women's rights, indeed feminism itself, are a recognition of shared oppression, and to include males in that, whether T or not, erases that impression?

Quite.

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Xanthangum · 07/03/2021 16:40

Thirst posts? What is that?

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HermitsLife · 07/03/2021 16:41

Fascinating isn't it? I never realised sexuality was an alt right conspiracy.