Superstraight

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Superstraight is trending on twitter. No I hadn't either.

Its a subcategory of straight that means that straight people can now be included in the lgbtqi+ categories. Or something. Hooray! Fight for my superstraight rights too Stonewall!. Or something

twitter.com/supa_str8/status/1368003836863000576?s=20

I can't get over this. A 16 year old boy says something online that some don't like, and it's his mum who gets death threats.
If a 16-year old girl made a video about being superlesbian, do you think it would be her father who got the death threats?
No.

I must have missed the memo. I thought they did already - you know, 'fat', old, 'frumpy', opinionated women have never made it to Playboy pinups, and women with small tits rarely do. Actresses and others have a use-by date at which they no longer appeal to men.

For the benefit of anyone at the back who hasn’t seen it yet, Amy Schumer’s classic ‘last fuckable day’ sketch: m.youtube.com/watch?v=XPpsI8mWKmg It never gets old.

I'm toying with 'superpostmenopausalcelibateandlovingit'.

@SirSamuelVimes - unless I'm missing something very deep, you've got your meanings switched in your previous post - homosexual = same sex attracted, heterosexual = opposite-sex attracted.

@YetAnotherSpartacus

Men will claim their lack of attraction to women who fail to meet patriarchal beauty standards is their natural sexuality and that no-one has the right to claim their sexual preferences are wrong

I must have missed the memo. I thought they did already - you know, 'fat', old, 'frumpy', opinionated women have never made it to Playboy pinups, and women with small tits rarely do. Actresses and others have a use-by date at which they no longer appeal to men.

Having said that, that has nothing whatsoever to do with the topic at hand.

I must have missed the memo. I thought they did already - you know, 'fat', old, 'frumpy', opinionated women have never made it to Playboy pinups, and women with small tits rarely do. Actresses and others have a use-by date at which they no longer appeal to men.

Yes, they do, and the teenage boys who started this hashtag are now being told that no-one must ever criticise them for their sexual tastes. It's rape culture even. Which is why it has everything to do with the topic at hand because if this sticks it will have consequences reaching far beyond just today's celebratory owning of the trans.

As an aside, when did we become American and start talking about "dating"? In general British people don't "date". We get drunk and shag somebody and then one party gradually moves in with the other.

@jj1968

Surely I am mistaken but this post from jj - sounds an awful lot like telling us what we have to find attractive?

So if a woman says she finds the thought of sex with someone of a different race or someone with a disability repulsive we should not even be allowed to question what in society has helped shape that? If a man thinks fat women are gross that's all cool, it's just his natural sexuality and to challenge it is rape culture? Or does this only apply to gender nonconformity?

You were the one who brought up gender non-conformity. Not I. You asked why a man wearing lingerie would become less attractive. You used the word repulsive. I have sexual preferences. That means I prefer some people over others, NOT that I find some people repulsive. You are adding the hyperbole. Our sexual preferences shouldn’t be something we have to explain or justify if we are just quietly making those choices. And there is a big difference IMO between not finding asian men attractive and not wanting to sleep with a woman - because I am super straight or old-school heterosexual. I’m not repulsed by either. I just choose not to sleep with them.

Love the triggering in this thread about nothing that makes a difference to anybody who has actual problems.

I didn't mention or refer to feminine men. I quoted your post about men in lingerie. Do not twist my words please. I find it offensive.

Yes, they do, and the teenage boys who started this hashtag are now being told that no-one must ever criticise them for their sexual tastes. It's rape culture even

Unless these teenage boys want to have sex with children, animals, relatives or people who don't want to have sex with them, then on the whole , no- one has the right to criticise their sexual tastes.

Our sexual preferences shouldn’t be something we have to explain or justify if we are just quietly making those choices.

But shouldn't we question how those sexual preference might be socially produced? You know, like they did in olden days feminism?

@MaudTheInvincible

I didn't mention or refer to feminine men. I quoted your post about men in lingerie. Do not twist my words please. I find it offensive.

Is a man in lingerie not a feminine man, in that it is someone adopting feminine presentation to some degree?

Lets' keep this thread on topic!

SUPERSTRAIGHT!

@jj1968

Our sexual preferences shouldn’t be something we have to explain or justify if we are just quietly making those choices.

But shouldn't we question how those sexual preference might be socially produced? You know, like they did in olden days feminism?

Or in olden days conversion therapy?

@jj1968

Surely I am mistaken but this post from jj - sounds an awful lot like telling us what we have to find attractive?

So if a woman says she finds the thought of sex with someone of a different race or someone with a disability repulsive we should not even be allowed to question what in society has helped shape that? If a man thinks fat women are gross that's all cool, it's just his natural sexuality and to challenge it is rape culture? Or does this only apply to gender nonconformity?

A man is entirely within his rights to choose not to date fat women and vice versa. Of course he or she shouldn't humiliate them in the process.

The main problem here is the same as bedevils the whole debate - no matter how much you might feel yourself to be a woman or a man you can't require other people to agree with you. It is not a fact that gender identity should trump sex as the definition of a woman or a man, it's a belief and you shouldn't be calling those who disagree with that belief bigots. You can certainly demand respect and non-discrimination but you can't require belief.

For contrast, take people who believe very strongly in astrology or a particular religion. It would be very wrong to discriminate against anyone just because of that. And you don't keep telling your work colleague how stupid astrology or religion is. Unless asked you don't offer your opinion on the subject at all.

But society as a whole does not require people to believe in astrology or religion. It doesn't suggest that not believing in such things is "literal violence". As a Catholic I found some of the things Dawkins and others said hurtful. That didn't give me the right to tell them to shut up because it threatened my identity or to call them "Catholicphobes"

Ironically I would guess that those trans people who say "I'm biologically X but prefer to live as if I were Y and if you're cool with that fine but no hard feelings if you aren't" have a lot better chance of getting dates than people who demand beliefs they simply don't have a right to demand.

"no-one must ever criticise them for their sexual tastes."
Why would anyone be criticised for their tastes?
As long as its legal and consensual.
I like tall men, im not repulsed by short men I just don't find them attractive.
I dont find overweight men attractive either.
Should I be criticised for that?
Re educated maybe.
So offensive.

Yes let’s keep focusing on the topic and not fall for the #superderailing

Indeed champagne - funny how when men transgress it’s still somehow women’s fault

@TheChampagneGalop

I can't get over this. A 16 year old boy says something online that some don't like, and it's his mum who gets death threats. If a 16-year old girl made a video about being superlesbian, do you think it would be her father who got the death threats? No.

Of course they threatened him too. When they go after your family members it changes because they are innocent in all of this, not that he is guilty on anything.

@jj1968

Our sexual preferences shouldn’t be something we have to explain or justify if we are just quietly making those choices.

But shouldn't we question how those sexual preference might be socially produced? You know, like they did in olden days feminism?

I think you are labouring under the delusion that there is a wide- scale rejection by men of women who fail to meet "patriarchal standards of beauty" (although tbh I think it's not so much labouring under a delusion as just a peg to hang your opposition to the idea of superstraight)

The vast majority of people meet those standards- yet most people seem to find partners.

Speaking as Roly/Poly, I'm all for feeding people but some people need to be put on a strict diet to keep the threads on track.

@jj1968

Our sexual preferences shouldn’t be something we have to explain or justify if we are just quietly making those choices.

But shouldn't we question how those sexual preference might be socially produced? You know, like they did in olden days feminism?

That does happen. But that’s not what is in question here. TRAs have been insisting that people accept “girldick” if they’re lesbian. Insisting that women who are same-sex attracted ignore their preferences. That’s creepy, rapey and repulsive. The push back via “superlesbian” is well overdue.

The vast majority of people don't meet those standards- yet most people seem to find partners.

So feminine men oppress women?

Wearing lingerie doesn't necessarily make a man feminine What a strange thing to say.

JJ, do you think that men who enjoy wearing, say, maid or nurse outfits are feminine?

Well it appears my stepdaughter is in the midst of joining a 'supergay' support group at her school when they go back. The very same female people who used to meet up as they were lesbian, or bi. Who were basically made to disperse because transphobia when they refused entry to a male person. They seem to be quite..enthusiastic this time that they may be able to meet without being accused of bigotry. I have warned her, to expect the same accusations, possibly even more poisonous though. This appears to be really taking off in my area now. No mention of superstraight today frm what I can see, all supergay/superlesbian. So the 'homophobic' cries are kind of falling on deaf ears!

Interesting that the main moderator of the superstraight reddit group (and possibly the founder) has a pepe the frog avatar in his profile and descrines himself as an anarcho capitalist (nothing to do with actual anarchism, but an off shoot of the alt-right).

Several other mods seem to have similar alt right views.