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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Superstraight

999 replies

Xanthangum · 06/03/2021 05:31

Superstraight is trending on twitter. No I hadn't either.

Its a subcategory of straight that means that straight people can now be included in the lgbtqi+ categories. Or something. Hooray! Fight for my superstraight rights too Stonewall!. Or something

twitter.com/supa_str8/status/1368003836863000576?s=20

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Deliriumoftheendless · 07/03/2021 12:21

That wasn’t a did at you, Strikemepink btw, hope it didn’t come across like that.

nauticant · 07/03/2021 12:21

You're just repeating the unsavoury message from your early post wrapped in pseudo-academic presentation jj1968.

Here's an alternative: stop digging.

Fucket · 07/03/2021 12:22

Well he’s not allowed to do whatever he wants because he’s married to me, and this is not an open marriage. But yes I do realise that he is allowed to find whoever he wants attractive as long as its legal. But as soon as this superstraight thing started I just had to ask DH what he made of it.

He doesn’t think TWAW and therefore perhaps that makes him bisexual? Because he wants his men to look like women, but still be men then otherwise he’s not interested.

ArabellaScott · 07/03/2021 12:24

'What should be done about that ' - how do you mean, jj?

RozWatching · 07/03/2021 12:25

Because he wants his men to look like women, but still be men then otherwise he’s not interested.

That's interesting. Look like women, in what way?

jj1968 · 07/03/2021 12:25

Surely I am mistaken but this post from jj - sounds an awful lot like telling us what we have to find attractive?

So if a woman says she finds the thought of sex with someone of a different race or someone with a disability repulsive we should not even be allowed to question what in society has helped shape that? If a man thinks fat women are gross that's all cool, it's just his natural sexuality and to challenge it is rape culture? Or does this only apply to gender nonconformity?

YetAnotherSpartacus · 07/03/2021 12:25

Men will claim their lack of attraction to women who fail to meet patriarchal beauty standards is their natural sexuality and that no-one has the right to claim their sexual preferences are wrong

I must have missed the memo. I thought they did already - you know, 'fat', old, 'frumpy', opinionated women have never made it to Playboy pinups, and women with small tits rarely do. Actresses and others have a use-by date at which they no longer appeal to men.

Having said that, that has nothing whatsoever to do with the topic at hand.

ArabellaScott · 07/03/2021 12:28

It is not a human right to be considered attractive.

RufustheSniggeringReindeer · 07/03/2021 12:29

Having said that, that has nothing whatsoever to do with the topic at hand

I agree

It would be good if the thread could stay on the superstraight topic

On a personal note I’m not sure i could honestly say i would be superstraight 🤔 but it would depend on circumstances i think

MissBarbary · 07/03/2021 12:29

@jj1968

Surely I am mistaken but this post from jj - sounds an awful lot like telling us what we have to find attractive?

So if a woman says she finds the thought of sex with someone of a different race or someone with a disability repulsive we should not even be allowed to question what in society has helped shape that? If a man thinks fat women are gross that's all cool, it's just his natural sexuality and to challenge it is rape culture? Or does this only apply to gender nonconformity?

When it comes to who a person is having sex with, yes.

I don't find fat people attractive.

nauticant · 07/03/2021 12:29

Like I wrote, jj1968 is now doing a performance on the thread to justify the need for #superstraight #supergay #superlesbian #superbi. It's a public service.

LadyFuHao · 07/03/2021 12:30

jj1968 No one, no matter their sex or orientation or 'gender', has a right to or is owed anyone elses body. Under any circumstances.

Fucket · 07/03/2021 12:31

I can’t really ask him now as he’s cooking lunch, but from what I gather from historical conversations. He thinks some of the TWAW forcing lesbians to accept them as women are nasty bullies. He reckons half of them wouldn’t be up for what he’d have been up for.

Blibbyblobby · 07/03/2021 12:35

@WoolOfBat

Strike, I think that would be wrong. I think the theory is that all women are women and biological women are super women.

Obviously all single sex protection needs to incorporate only super women due to the fact that it is drafted for biological differences.

Super- isn’t an identity, it’s a sexuality. Superstraight, supergay, superlesbian, superbi. Trans people can be Super as well.

It just means attraction based on sex not gender.

A trans woman who is only attracted to females would be Superlesbian, although of course her lesbian partners would not be.

In fact I have no doubt there are a lot of Supers in the trans community, but sadly given the level of superphobia they probably don’t feel safe coming out.

Fucket · 07/03/2021 12:37

Tbh I’ve not much probed him on why only men dressed up in women’s clothes and not men dressed as men. I shall have to get back to you.

WarOnWomen · 07/03/2021 12:37

[quote nauticant]For all your #superstraight #supergay #superlesbian #superbi needs the r/SuperStraight sub reddit is on fire and could well be snuffed out when the trans activists go after reddit over this:

www.reddit.com/r/SuperStraight/comments/lzfco3/superphobes_literally_want_us_dead_because_they/?sort=old[/quote]

It's so funny and interesting to see the language turned on its head.

"You are brave and beautiful" etc to supers.

nauticant · 07/03/2021 12:38

trans woman who is only attracted to females would be Superlesbian

I'd say #superstraight would be the correct label. But this is very new and it might take some time before common understanding emerge.

MaudTheInvincible · 07/03/2021 12:39

There's nothing inherent to nature that says a man dressed in lingerie should be off putting, it's cultural

It's a manifestation of the man's enjoyment of the oppression of women, a [🤐 banned word] which depends on the subordination and subjugation of women in order to work. Personally, I can't think of anything more repulsive than a man flaunting his misogyny in this way. Frankly nothing is more likely to make my vagina clamp shut.

accessorizequeen · 07/03/2021 12:41

@nauticant

If you hang around FWR long enough accessorizequeen you'll see that this kind of unintentionally revealing post from jj1968 is a common occurrence.
I had twigged, nauticant Smile Sarcasm didn’t come over well!
nauticant · 07/03/2021 12:41
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jj1968 · 07/03/2021 12:42

@MaudTheInvincible

There's nothing inherent to nature that says a man dressed in lingerie should be off putting, it's cultural

It's a manifestation of the man's enjoyment of the oppression of women, a [🤐 banned word] which depends on the subordination and subjugation of women in order to work. Personally, I can't think of anything more repulsive than a man flaunting his misogyny in this way. Frankly nothing is more likely to make my vagina clamp shut.

So feminine men oppress women? Gotcha.
MissBarbary · 07/03/2021 12:42

Men will claim their lack of attraction to women who fail to meet patriarchal beauty standards is their natural sexuality and that no-one has the right to claim their sexual preferences are wrong

Setting aside sexual preferences which break criminal law (children, animals, near relatives and non- consensual partners) I have no right whatsoever to tell men their sexual preferences are wrong- any more than men have to tell me mine are wrong.

And actually your point about "failing to meet patriarchal beauty standards" is extremely weak. Most people don't meet them yet most people still find partners.

nauticant · 07/03/2021 12:43

It's tempting but I'm now going to heed the sensible voices suggesting that we get back to talking about the fascinating #superstraight phenomenon.

WoolOfBat · 07/03/2021 12:45

I make no value judgment on a man (please note nothing to do with trans) who wants to be dressed in lingerie in order to get turned on. Go for it, have fun.

I make a huge negative judgment if he thinks it is his right to have sex with someone like that if his partner is turned off by it.

Nobody is owed sex. Nobody has the right to emotionally blackmail someone to give them sex. I cannot believe I have to write this.

And the fact that there seem to be a long, theoretical argument as to why this hypothetical man in lingerie is owed sex is rapey and horrific.

WarOnWomen · 07/03/2021 12:45

@nauticant

trans woman who is only attracted to females would be Superlesbian

I'd say #superstraight would be the correct label. But this is very new and it might take some time before common understanding emerge.

Maybe they are just straight instead of superstraight as the latter implies straight heterosexual men without a gender identity.