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Superstraight

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Xanthangum · 06/03/2021 05:31

Superstraight is trending on twitter. No I hadn't either.

Its a subcategory of straight that means that straight people can now be included in the lgbtqi+ categories. Or something. Hooray! Fight for my superstraight rights too Stonewall!. Or something

twitter.com/supa_str8/status/1368003836863000576?s=20

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Sophoclesthefox · 07/03/2021 07:43

Pronouns are dumdiddleiddleiddledumdiddle/I

Still making me smile this morning Grin

It’s been a fantastic microcosm of the whole thing though, and in quite a sad way. Lesbians have been pointing this out for years- tumbleweed. Straight men get on board, and suddenly there’s momentum. But still, in the end, you have to find the woman and punish her because it’s most definitely a woman’s fault Sad hope she and her son are ok.

HPFA · 07/03/2021 07:52

If activists had any sense they would leave Superstraight Reddit alone. It's obvious that a lot of people are having fun, there are sadly a few genuinely transphobic people on there (who the mods should deal with really) and quite a lot of genuine heartfelt anger.

There are signs that the generation coming up is tired of the neurotic 100 gender stuff. And behaving like the establishment and continually acting to suppress anything you don't like is going to just make it seem even more cool to be a rebel on this.

haggistramp · 07/03/2021 08:04

The boy who did the original tiktok is a child. He is 16. He doesn't deserve death threats and neither does his mother. If anything superstraight is gonna show how deranged, rapey, cult like and predisposed to violent threats the TRA side is. I hope this is the start of their sandbuilt castle coming tumbling down.

adviceseekingnamechanger · 07/03/2021 08:05

@TalkingtoLangClegintheDark

A bunch of homophobic straight men being so disgusted by the thought of seeming gay that they make up an orientation to verbally exclude trans women

These are YOUR WORDS, Evarish. Your words.

You are saying that heterosexual men who are attracted only to biologically female people are “homophobic” and are “making up” a sexual orientation. You are denying the existence and validity of sexual attraction as the vast, vast majority of people experience it and have always experienced it - based on the SEX of their prospective partners, whether that be opposite sex (hetero), same sex (homo).

Stop with your absolute bullshit about “making up” an orientation. This is what heterosexuality and homosexuality literally mean, FFS. Genuinely heterosexual men are NOT INTERESTED in a partner who has a penis, it is the OPPOSITE of attractive to them. Not because they’re homophobic but because they’re STRAIGHT.

This used to be completely clear. These words had meanings that were commonly understood. Until there was a concerted attempt to change the meanings of fundamental terms into something quite, quite different, an attempt which you clearly support.

And the worst thing about that is that all the arguments re straight men have been being made against lesbians for years now. Lesbians who are equally NOT interested in a partner with a penis because they’re SAME SEX attracted - I suppose you think that’s a “made up” sexual orientation too, do you? FFS - are called “transphobic”, and no longer have a word to describe THEIR, and only their, sexuality because it’s been stolen from them.

Now we have “lesbians” who have biologically male partners; we have “lesbians” who are themselves biologically male - where the fuck does that leave the women who are only attracted to other biological females? It leaves them excluded from the “LGBT community”, it leaves them being attacked for being “transphobic” and pressured to consider biologically male people as partners, it leaves them without a name for THEIR sexual orientation.

It leads to the “progressive” version of corrective rape for young lesbians who are told that they can’t be exclusively same-sex attracted if they want to be part of the LGBTQ+ community, those who are unsupported and vulnerable enough to doubt and suppress their own feelings because they’re being told they’re horrible bigots otherwise, who don’t have the confidence and experience to stand up to this misogynistic juggernaut of a movement and say NO to penis, all penis in all circumstances.

This is what you are promoting. This is how you are contributing to rape culture, and THAT is what is disgusting, truly abhorrent and disgusting and vile, not the fact of me naming it, and calling you out on it.

Now straight men are saying enough, and so they have come up with “superstraight”. Not because it’s a made up orientation - how fucking batshit naive and divorced from reality do you have to be to think that?! Honestly?! - but because the language that unequivocally hetero- and homo-sexual people used to use for their long established sexuality has been stolen from them and corrupted to mean something else, to be meaningless in fact.

And because they’re straight men, they’re largely immune to the kind of abuse that lesbians have been subjected to for having exactly the same feelings over recent years. The fact that men are saying this means it will be heard and accepted a lot more, and it will shine a spotlight on the unacceptable shit that lesbians have had to put up with for years now, and make it harder for the lesbophobes to pull the “transphobic” card on them, so that’s why it’s bloody brilliant to see. That’s why we’re celebrating here. Because this is a place that cares about women. An alien concept to you, no doubt.

So yeah. You steal and corrupt the terms for things that need a specific name, and the people you’ve appropriated them from will have to coin new terms, because whether you like it or not, exclusively single sex attraction, whether it’s opposite sex or same sex, is not going away. And people who experience either one want a word to describe their sexuality, not some wooly assortment of pick n mix leanings.

Hence #superstraight and #superlesbian. You don’t like it, tough. This is the real world. And in the real world, there are two groups of people who don’t want to sexually/romantically interact with a partner with a penis, full stop - always have been and there always will be. Get over it.

Well, Empress, I’ve taken you at your word when you said please don’t stop, Talking. Carry on. That’s a request from a superlesbian. Grin Possibly a bit more than you bargained for Grin Grin

Amazing post. Unfortunately a couple of posters on here won't be able to understand it as it undermines their logic so profoundly. And protects all people whose attraction is based on a person's immutable sex.
Whatstheweatherlike · 07/03/2021 08:06

@TalkingtoLangClegintheDark

A bunch of homophobic straight men being so disgusted by the thought of seeming gay that they make up an orientation to verbally exclude trans women

These are YOUR WORDS, Evarish. Your words.

You are saying that heterosexual men who are attracted only to biologically female people are “homophobic” and are “making up” a sexual orientation. You are denying the existence and validity of sexual attraction as the vast, vast majority of people experience it and have always experienced it - based on the SEX of their prospective partners, whether that be opposite sex (hetero), same sex (homo).

Stop with your absolute bullshit about “making up” an orientation. This is what heterosexuality and homosexuality literally mean, FFS. Genuinely heterosexual men are NOT INTERESTED in a partner who has a penis, it is the OPPOSITE of attractive to them. Not because they’re homophobic but because they’re STRAIGHT.

This used to be completely clear. These words had meanings that were commonly understood. Until there was a concerted attempt to change the meanings of fundamental terms into something quite, quite different, an attempt which you clearly support.

And the worst thing about that is that all the arguments re straight men have been being made against lesbians for years now. Lesbians who are equally NOT interested in a partner with a penis because they’re SAME SEX attracted - I suppose you think that’s a “made up” sexual orientation too, do you? FFS - are called “transphobic”, and no longer have a word to describe THEIR, and only their, sexuality because it’s been stolen from them.

Now we have “lesbians” who have biologically male partners; we have “lesbians” who are themselves biologically male - where the fuck does that leave the women who are only attracted to other biological females? It leaves them excluded from the “LGBT community”, it leaves them being attacked for being “transphobic” and pressured to consider biologically male people as partners, it leaves them without a name for THEIR sexual orientation.

It leads to the “progressive” version of corrective rape for young lesbians who are told that they can’t be exclusively same-sex attracted if they want to be part of the LGBTQ+ community, those who are unsupported and vulnerable enough to doubt and suppress their own feelings because they’re being told they’re horrible bigots otherwise, who don’t have the confidence and experience to stand up to this misogynistic juggernaut of a movement and say NO to penis, all penis in all circumstances.

This is what you are promoting. This is how you are contributing to rape culture, and THAT is what is disgusting, truly abhorrent and disgusting and vile, not the fact of me naming it, and calling you out on it.

Now straight men are saying enough, and so they have come up with “superstraight”. Not because it’s a made up orientation - how fucking batshit naive and divorced from reality do you have to be to think that?! Honestly?! - but because the language that unequivocally hetero- and homo-sexual people used to use for their long established sexuality has been stolen from them and corrupted to mean something else, to be meaningless in fact.

And because they’re straight men, they’re largely immune to the kind of abuse that lesbians have been subjected to for having exactly the same feelings over recent years. The fact that men are saying this means it will be heard and accepted a lot more, and it will shine a spotlight on the unacceptable shit that lesbians have had to put up with for years now, and make it harder for the lesbophobes to pull the “transphobic” card on them, so that’s why it’s bloody brilliant to see. That’s why we’re celebrating here. Because this is a place that cares about women. An alien concept to you, no doubt.

So yeah. You steal and corrupt the terms for things that need a specific name, and the people you’ve appropriated them from will have to coin new terms, because whether you like it or not, exclusively single sex attraction, whether it’s opposite sex or same sex, is not going away. And people who experience either one want a word to describe their sexuality, not some wooly assortment of pick n mix leanings.

Hence #superstraight and #superlesbian. You don’t like it, tough. This is the real world. And in the real world, there are two groups of people who don’t want to sexually/romantically interact with a partner with a penis, full stop - always have been and there always will be. Get over it.

Well, Empress, I’ve taken you at your word when you said please don’t stop, Talking. Carry on. That’s a request from a superlesbian. Grin Possibly a bit more than you bargained for Grin Grin

👏👏👏 TalkingtoLangCleg. A marvellous post.
Liquorishtoffee · 07/03/2021 08:06

All the ‘love all’ and colourful (a bit childish of to ask me) visuals and slogans... 🤔

WanderinWomb · 07/03/2021 08:06

I'm sure he also had death threats but since is 16 has no home or business to attack. Yes though they will always look for a wife, mother, sister or daughter to threaten.

I hope they are safe.

Xanthangum · 07/03/2021 08:22

I am actually crying with emotion - joy, relief, solidarity, gratitude - at that post. Thank you @TalkingtoLangClegintheDark

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Saltovinegar · 07/03/2021 08:30

TalkingtoLangClegintheDark
Your post is fantastic, says it all.

Faffertea · 07/03/2021 08:36

TalkingtoLangClegintheDark
Brilliant post. If I could star it I would.

McDuffy · 07/03/2021 08:36

TalkingtoLangCleg
I've read your post three times. It's mega.

HermitsLife · 07/03/2021 08:44

@haggistramp

The boy who did the original tiktok is a child. He is 16. He doesn't deserve death threats and neither does his mother. If anything superstraight is gonna show how deranged, rapey, cult like and predisposed to violent threats the TRA side is. I hope this is the start of their sandbuilt castle coming tumbling down.
Me too
SheldonesqueIsUnwell · 07/03/2021 08:48

Threatening his mam.

Shameful.

talkingtolangcleg. Brava 👏🏼

MrMucker · 07/03/2021 08:52

This thread is way too intense when the world is full of genuine hardship.

Deliriumoftheendless · 07/03/2021 08:56

If lesbian can now mean a man who identifies as a woman and fancies women and bisexual can now be a woman who identifies as gender fluid who is attracted to men (ie what used to be known as old fashioned heterosexuality) why wouldn’t straight people get to rename themselves?

I mean, it’s a piss take making a point but also the logical conclusion of the shuffling around of what actual sexual attraction means for the majority of people.

Because if straight means “attracted to the same gender” rather than “same sex” then a straight man could be said to be attracted to masculine looking trans women but not to a male presenting trans man who has done nothing but socially transition. Which means gay, straight, bi and lesbian all mean nothing, which is probably delightful on Twitter, but probably galling for the gay men old enough to remember when they could be prosecuted for their sexuality.

queentsumtsum · 07/03/2021 08:58

@TalkingtoLangClegintheDark wow, such an amazing post.

It should be front page everywhere, posted out to people and made into stickers. Your ability to explain all the nuances and points so clearly is remarkable. Well said!

PurpleHoodie · 07/03/2021 09:10

Soubriquet Grin

It's SuperBi.

#SuperLesbian
#SuperGay
#SuperBi
#SuperStraight

All are loved.
All are welcome.
All are valid

#lgbs

PurpleHoodie · 07/03/2021 09:12

And the thing is, the SuperStraights are happy for the LGBs to be, separately.

#Allies in the Tweets
#Seperate in the sheets.

PurpleHoodie · 07/03/2021 09:13

TalkingtoLangCleg

Great post Star

AfternoonToffee · 07/03/2021 09:16

@MrMucker

This thread is way too intense when the world is full of genuine hardship.
Well yes, say that to the TRA's as they are the ones making this all so intense, this is the kickback.
borntobequiet · 07/03/2021 09:16

PornHub has colours? Why all the sodding colours? I’m glad I mostly wear black.

Soubriquet · 07/03/2021 09:20

@PurpleHoodie

Soubriquet Grin

It's SuperBi.

#SuperLesbian
#SuperGay
#SuperBi
#SuperStraight

All are loved.
All are welcome.
All are valid

#lgbs

Sounds like the worlds worst superhero Grin
HermitsLife · 07/03/2021 09:21

@TalkingtoLangClegintheDark

A bunch of homophobic straight men being so disgusted by the thought of seeming gay that they make up an orientation to verbally exclude trans women

These are YOUR WORDS, Evarish. Your words.

You are saying that heterosexual men who are attracted only to biologically female people are “homophobic” and are “making up” a sexual orientation. You are denying the existence and validity of sexual attraction as the vast, vast majority of people experience it and have always experienced it - based on the SEX of their prospective partners, whether that be opposite sex (hetero), same sex (homo).

Stop with your absolute bullshit about “making up” an orientation. This is what heterosexuality and homosexuality literally mean, FFS. Genuinely heterosexual men are NOT INTERESTED in a partner who has a penis, it is the OPPOSITE of attractive to them. Not because they’re homophobic but because they’re STRAIGHT.

This used to be completely clear. These words had meanings that were commonly understood. Until there was a concerted attempt to change the meanings of fundamental terms into something quite, quite different, an attempt which you clearly support.

And the worst thing about that is that all the arguments re straight men have been being made against lesbians for years now. Lesbians who are equally NOT interested in a partner with a penis because they’re SAME SEX attracted - I suppose you think that’s a “made up” sexual orientation too, do you? FFS - are called “transphobic”, and no longer have a word to describe THEIR, and only their, sexuality because it’s been stolen from them.

Now we have “lesbians” who have biologically male partners; we have “lesbians” who are themselves biologically male - where the fuck does that leave the women who are only attracted to other biological females? It leaves them excluded from the “LGBT community”, it leaves them being attacked for being “transphobic” and pressured to consider biologically male people as partners, it leaves them without a name for THEIR sexual orientation.

It leads to the “progressive” version of corrective rape for young lesbians who are told that they can’t be exclusively same-sex attracted if they want to be part of the LGBTQ+ community, those who are unsupported and vulnerable enough to doubt and suppress their own feelings because they’re being told they’re horrible bigots otherwise, who don’t have the confidence and experience to stand up to this misogynistic juggernaut of a movement and say NO to penis, all penis in all circumstances.

This is what you are promoting. This is how you are contributing to rape culture, and THAT is what is disgusting, truly abhorrent and disgusting and vile, not the fact of me naming it, and calling you out on it.

Now straight men are saying enough, and so they have come up with “superstraight”. Not because it’s a made up orientation - how fucking batshit naive and divorced from reality do you have to be to think that?! Honestly?! - but because the language that unequivocally hetero- and homo-sexual people used to use for their long established sexuality has been stolen from them and corrupted to mean something else, to be meaningless in fact.

And because they’re straight men, they’re largely immune to the kind of abuse that lesbians have been subjected to for having exactly the same feelings over recent years. The fact that men are saying this means it will be heard and accepted a lot more, and it will shine a spotlight on the unacceptable shit that lesbians have had to put up with for years now, and make it harder for the lesbophobes to pull the “transphobic” card on them, so that’s why it’s bloody brilliant to see. That’s why we’re celebrating here. Because this is a place that cares about women. An alien concept to you, no doubt.

So yeah. You steal and corrupt the terms for things that need a specific name, and the people you’ve appropriated them from will have to coin new terms, because whether you like it or not, exclusively single sex attraction, whether it’s opposite sex or same sex, is not going away. And people who experience either one want a word to describe their sexuality, not some wooly assortment of pick n mix leanings.

Hence #superstraight and #superlesbian. You don’t like it, tough. This is the real world. And in the real world, there are two groups of people who don’t want to sexually/romantically interact with a partner with a penis, full stop - always have been and there always will be. Get over it.

Well, Empress, I’ve taken you at your word when you said please don’t stop, Talking. Carry on. That’s a request from a superlesbian. Grin Possibly a bit more than you bargained for Grin Grin

All of this.

Thanks for your brilliant post Talking to LangCleg

PurpleHoodie · 07/03/2021 09:25

But are there capes!

I feel we should know.

Where is Edna Mode when you need her? Grin

Soubriquet · 07/03/2021 09:27

Edna would say....

Superstraight