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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

What's wrong with 'Cisgender'

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ASugar · 04/03/2021 15:49

As someone who identifies as a cisgender woman and works in sexual health, I am honestly confused as to why so many females (sex term) who identify with being women (gender term) dislike the term Cisgender?

Now I'm not here to tell you what to say, I am genuinely curious.

However, here is my opinion for those who may be interested.

Cisgender just means you are not transgender. That your sex links you your gender and you assign any gender terms (ie. Pronouns, Gender identity, sometimes gender expression but not always, etc). I personally don't like to think that just because I was born with a vagina means I am a woman because I know many men with vaginas and women with penises. Additionally those who don't have a gender identity, then that would mean you wouldn't use women and men as they're gender terms (according to medical professionals). It would make you non binary or agender.

I understand that the term 'Cis' has been used to insult others which for that I am sorry.
My view is that if you can't allow trans women to be accepted in society and identified as women (without the need for 'trans' infront of it constantly) then we should be using cisgender. It is a medical term that professionals such as the NHS recognize. But I understand that is just my opinion.

I probably won't be commenting as I can imagine this will be filled with comments and I don't want to disrespect anyone's views. Just a cisgender woman who wants to understand more...

And as always I would appreciate if you respect my view as I'm going to be respecting all of yours.

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PotholeParadies · 04/03/2021 23:38

@Mockolate

Yikes. I very much hope none of her online twitter circle know her address

Not sure what that's supposed to mean?
Sounds like a hint towards people doxxing her or insinuating at people doxxing - how do you get there if so, anyone who is for trans rights must automatically be assumed to be dodgy enough to dox!.

I don't think it was much of a hint. I think I was outright stating I felt worried for her!

I get there, by noticing the abuse and threats women are subjected to on Twitter for expressing exactly that opinion. Someone's doing it, aren't they? Am I supposed to pretend I don't see it going on?

Or simply not supposed to ever express empathy or concern without seeking your permission first?

Ninkanink · 04/03/2021 23:38

BOSWELL!!

SorryAuntLydia · 04/03/2021 23:38

@SheldonesqueIsUnwell

Cutted up pear.
Indeed.
SorryAuntLydia · 04/03/2021 23:39

I think op might have gone to Maui

SheldonesqueIsUnwell · 04/03/2021 23:39
Wink
PotholeParadies · 04/03/2021 23:39

Boswell? You complete gits.

I read that whole ruddy thread, more fool me.

SorryAuntLydia · 04/03/2021 23:40

So has this just been all about Balonz?

Winesalot · 04/03/2021 23:40

@ASugar I am not on twitter so I am replying to you here.

No. I think you have me confused with someone else. I had ONE deletion because I mentioned something about good faith posting.

It is completely untrue that I had many posts deleted because I kept thinking you were a man.

And yes, I and others requested that you did not misgender us by continuing to call us ‘c*s’ and you replied that you would continue to do so despite our requests.

SorryAuntLydia · 04/03/2021 23:41

Are we safe from the Mexican holiday thief?

Waspnest · 04/03/2021 23:41

BOSWELL!!

No! It's been solved!

Deadringer · 04/03/2021 23:41

Haddick that will never not be funny. Grin

SorryAuntLydia · 04/03/2021 23:42

@PotholeParadies

Boswell? You complete gits.

I read that whole ruddy thread, more fool me.

Yeah some threads are really tedious aren’t they
OhGodNotThisAgain · 04/03/2021 23:43

Do the goady troll threads never end on this section of Mumsnet?

nothingcomestonothing · 04/03/2021 23:44

Pom bears Bear

Just saying.

SorryAuntLydia · 04/03/2021 23:44

Excuse me but I think I just snapped and farted

ASugar · 04/03/2021 23:44

[quote Winesalot]@ASugar I am not on twitter so I am replying to you here.

No. I think you have me confused with someone else. I had ONE deletion because I mentioned something about good faith posting.

It is completely untrue that I had many posts deleted because I kept thinking you were a man.

And yes, I and others requested that you did not misgender us by continuing to call us ‘c*s’ and you replied that you would continue to do so despite our requests.[/quote]
I apologize if that is how that comment came acorss. I understand that maybe my choice of words weren't right even with context. However I would like to clarify that it wasn't my intention 🤍

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Mockolate · 04/03/2021 23:44

Oh, look, inane posts to fill up a thread as it's nearing the end.
Cutted up pears, Maui, penis beakers, yes, they're all past MN threads but what exactly have they got to do with anything else on this threaf?
If that was some posters posting contrary to a "GC" view people would kick off and moan.

Mockolate · 04/03/2021 23:45

thread even

SorryAuntLydia · 04/03/2021 23:45

@nothingcomestonothing

Pom bears Bear

Just saying.

Fantastic snacks. Quite like a weetabix too.
AlwaysTawnyOwl · 04/03/2021 23:45

Cisgender just means you are not transgender. That your sex links you your gender and you assign any gender terms (ie. Pronouns, Gender identity, sometimes gender expression but not always, etc). I personally don't like to think that just because I was born with a vagina means I am a woman because I know many men with vaginas and women with penises. Additionally those who don't have a gender identity, then that would mean you wouldn't use women and men as they're gender terms (according to medical professionals). It would make you non binary or agender^

I am a human being with a female body. That's it. I don't identify as anything apart from me. If that makes me 'non binary' then we're all non- binary.

OP - your assumption is that there is a set of characteristics/clothing/interests/personality traits that can be labelled 'man' or 'woman' and you 'identify ' with one or the other or neither. GC feminists reject this entire notion. Instead of saying which of these rigid gender boxes do I fit into - GC feminists say 'let's get rid if the boxes'. Having a female body doesn't mean you have to be pink and fluffy and like Barbie as Mermaids would have you believe. And having a male body doesn't preclude you from being a make up artist or ballet dancer. It's much much more liberating than gender ideology.

Mockolate · 04/03/2021 23:46

Oh look, weetabix and pom bears now too.
Pathetic, shows up the echo chamber and "in jokes."

ASugar · 04/03/2021 23:46

Glad we could all have this discussion. Regardless of the insults and the accusations, some of you actually shocked me with the level of kindness and understanding shown. So thank you to those that did. However I probably won't return to this platform often as it's not really my thing. Thanks for the debate and discussions. Hope you all have a wonderful weekend 🤍

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Mockolate · 04/03/2021 23:47

Asugar Smile

2020canfuckitself · 05/03/2021 07:35

This planet gets weirder and weirder.

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