Bunbury's Ninth Public Announcement - Hill Walking Club

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The useful Bunbury Guide to Spotting Community Disruptors is constantly evolving.

The best research and advice is not to engage with community disruptors and trolls. As ever, if you suspect troll activity, report it to MNHQ.

This is a continuation of the Public Service Announcement thread:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/a4164702-Bunbury-s-Eighth-Sealion-training-for-beginners?msgid=105201850#105201850

If and when you see threads plopped into FWR, especially a curious repeat of well worn topics, maybe check for poster history before engaging. AS is your friend.

There are a number of posts/posters/threads that are reproduced on Twitter or Facebook to foment controversy using screen shots & flagging to either MNHQ to have threads or posters deleted.. Sometimes, it’s used to approach commissioning editors with ideas for articles. It’s a tiresome tactic that we always have community disruptor posters who themselves post the comments that they then highlight elsewhere as purported evidence of racism, religious intolerance, anti-men sentiments, or transphobia.

This thread will be taking a leisurely stroll through the foothills of community disruption, noting the behaviour of wildlife and interesting flora and fauna en route.

Godsake, I really am rubbish at the emoticon game. Here, have a fresh one, Tinsel: and a bit of for elevenses.

Feminists who are committed to the idea that GNC is good but self ID is bad have picked this case to make that point.

Does this particular point really ever need making again after Grayson Perry showed up to the palace in a frock? I suppose not everyone is familiar with the Art of Grayson Perry, or some of his writing.

For the past (counts on fingers) 33 years I have known a man who sometimes dressed in skirts and blouses (and complained bitterly about the difficulty of finding women's shoes for size ten feet, poor man: the choice was limited and none really suited him) in a recreational context. When he was in a skirt, we all addressed him by his chosen female name, but as far as I know nobody including himself ever thought he was actually female; it was just another costume in a group in which a lot of dressing up (mostly as characters from one particular sort of fiction) happens all the time. Using his preferred name to go with the costume was quite standard, just as calling someone named Paul "Thog" if he was in Thog-mode, for instance was the norm, using his pen-name if he was in author-mode was the norm. My acquaintance is married and has a child in his teens. Yesterday I found out from an address-list for an activity we are both involved in that she now uses a female name at work, and her email address has changed to reflect her new status.

I suspect this new status may explain her wife's demeanour last time I met her.

(I don't think that anything in this post is outing or offensive; the much-loved Paul is dead and anyway wouldn't care.)

@TinselAngel

Women saying "I recognise this pattern of behaviour because I have experienced it" and other women saying "no you're wrong and hush please I'm trying to make a point" is how it feels.

It was very frustrating, I felt for you.

I think a lot of people would have benefited from the points you or others were trying to make but would have been banned for making.
MN attitude really is strange on this, they act like we should be grateful they provide this board and all the trouble it causes. In reality we are by far one of the most popular and a total click machine and income generator.

We also provide a buffer to rest of boards, if the misogynists didn't have us to attack they would be all all over the pregnancy, TTC and menopause chats attacking the language there.

We are the foot soldiers getting banned and silenced off to protect the vulnerable posters on Relationships board. MN should be paying us.

@PotholeParadies

I really like sprinkling vinegar on sliced cucumber.

I'll be doing this and that amazing Bombay potato omelette soon. Maybe even together.

I love you vipers.

The individual concerned is so far from being Boy George or David Bowie that it is almost laughable

Odd choice of comparators but as far as we know there's no evidence he was jailed for 15 months for falsely imprisoning a male prostitute by handcuffing him to a wall and beating him with a metal chain or had sex with underage girls.

Vinegar on cucumber, that sounds really good actually. I might try that later.

Off to buy some malt loaf, does Tesco stock Soreen?

A small dish of sliced cucumber soaked in malt vinegar with a little sugar dissolved was a standard accompaniment to the salads of the olden times when I was a girl.

Also delicious in (tinned) salmon sandwiches.

I do love ready prepared bombay potato. I'd forgotten about Tesco tinned mix.

The slices of cucumber go particularly well with chippy chips and lashings of salt 'n' vinegar.

Cucumber with a splash of vinegar on salmon sandwiches, that sounds absolutely delicious. I might have that for lunch tomorrow!

A small dish of sliced cucumber soaked in malt vinegar with a little sugar dissolved was a standard accompaniment to the salads of the olden times when I was a girl.

Agreed - also works with raw onion for those who don't have FODMAP problems with them.

For your consideration, I offer Freezer Cucumber Pickles (from a now discontinued blog - A Yankee in a Southern Kitchen) - the texture is crisp and they are moreish as an accompaniment to many, many other items:

• 4 cups (500g) of paper-thin sliced cucumbers

• water

• 2 tablespoons kosher salt

• 1 1/2 cups sugar 300g

• 1/2 (120ml) cup white vinegar

• Slice your cucumbers (preferably Kirbys or the small ones you can buy from Polish shops) as thin as possible. Don’t peel them or remove the seeds.

• Put sliced cucumbers in a bowl and cover with just enough salted water to cover them.

• Soak at room temperature for 2 hours.

• Drain, but don’t rinse and reserve the water.

• Dissolve the sugar in the vinegar.

• Pour over the cucumbers and add enough brine to cover.

• Put in a freezer container (plastic okay) and liquid.

• If dividing into two containers divide liquid in equal portions.

• Freeze overnight, this is how they get crisp.

• Take out of freezer the next day, they will thaw in a few hours.

• Store in refrigerator, they keep for about 6 weeks.

@WoolOfBat

Cucumber with a splash of vinegar on salmon sandwiches, that sounds absolutely delicious. I might have that for lunch tomorrow!

Has to be tinned red salmon and Sarson's malt vinegar.

Drain can of salmon, generous slug of vinegar into can, salt and white pepper, chop up with fork, spread onto buttered bread.

That sounds nice too, EmbarrassingAdmissions

I've been over to site stuff. Probably shouldn't as have strikes but I'm naughty.

I had to put this in there, what a trip down memory lane www.mumsnet.com/Talk/site_stuff/3238536-Mumsnet-encouraging-brigading-by-Twitter-TRAs

I have never heard of Bombay potato in a can before, that this exists at all has actually impoved my life, I don't even have to eat it or rustle up an omelette to feel good. The world is a better place just for it being there.

🥒 added to online order too.

Apologies that I've now been chased onto this thread in order to be disagreed with.

Are gherkins just small cucumbers?

Dr Johnson was an awful old sexist, but his opinion on cucumbers was unforgettable:
"It has been a common saying of physicians in England, that a cucumber should be well sliced, and dressed with pepper and vinegar, and then thrown out, as good for nothing."

I pickle carrot and cucumber julienned in rice vinegar and sugar. Lovely with coriander in a rice bowl with something.

Yes. From the Dutch gurken, small cucumber.

I think they have to be pickled or fermented to qualify as gherkins.

I used to enjoy making the salad when I was growing up - a leaf or two of soft round lettuce (this was pre iceberg or cos), sliced cucumbers and beetroot in vinegar, crinkle-cut tomatoes. I wouldn't actually eat any of it - it was a revelation when I first tried un-vinegared beetroot.

Boswell provided the classic recipe for cucumber:

"It has been a common saying of physicians in England, that a cucumber should be well sliced, and dressed with pepper and vinegar, and then thrown out, as good for nothing."

I'm not sure. Jerry Wimsey's nickname was "Pickled Gherkins", which suggests there might have been an unpickled sort.

I've very fond of fermented cauliflower but it's a pest to get the salt concentration right for the brine. I can eat jars of Giardiniera - when I get it right, I don't stop eating it but when it goes wrong the smell is rank.

The only thing I enjoyed about the French exchange at school was the discovery of salad dressing and and that therefore salad could taste of something.

Also, I'm making moussaka later so will be eating my yearly courgette.

Doesn't mentioning Boswell merit a strike these days?!

Thanks for the flowers, Hellofabor. It was gorgeous and sunny this morning in the Scottish hills, but freezing. Even some of the small burns were iced over...

Sunlight is helping in Edinburgh, but it's the amazing women standing up for our rights who hold up the mirrors to shine that light into even the darkest corners who are making the biggest difference.

(Some we know, like For Women Scotland are and Murray Blackburn Mackenzie, and others we only know of like the slate women or stickerwoman.)