MOJ Prison Policy JR TODAY

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Just seen on Twitter.

Will post links

@Signalbox

Garside witness statement read out to reveal that in the stakeholder meeting of 2nd May the MOJ did not think the single sex exceptions applied in prison accommodation

Honestly why the fuck would they not apply! Surely this is exactly the type of service that could invoke the single sex exemptions! Unbelievable!

God that really is unbelievable. Can hardly think of anywhere where the single sex exemption is more important.

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Nicola Williams first witness statement (attending the MOJ meeting) read out: Key issues raised by NW were that MOJ only considered impact on female prisoners related to physical safety only, no consideration of mental trauma associated with sharing with trans sex offenders /14

Evidence that MOJ was telling stakeholders in May 2019 that single sex exceptions DON'T apply in prisons. NW and RG disputed that in meeting. MOJ later found hold a different view in its evidence to court. /15

Nicola Williams first witness statement (attending the MOJ meeting) read out: Key issues raised by NW were that MOJ only considered impact on female prisoners related to physical safety only, no consideration of mental trauma associated with sharing with trans sex offenders /14

Evidence that MOJ was telling stakeholders in May 2019 that single sex exceptions DON'T apply in prisons. NW and RG disputed that in meeting. MOJ later found hold a different view in its evidence to court. /15

The inference here is that policy was formulated under the incorrect assumption that single sex exceptions couldn't be applied in prison /16

The transgender prison policy makes no reference to application of single sex exceptions /17

Evidence that MOJ was telling stakeholders in May 2019 that single sex exceptions DON'T apply in prisons.

Oh dear.

Is that.....illegal?

They say that prisons aren't providing a service

They think we are stupid don't they?
Isn't it called HM Prison Service?

Yes, it is, Signalbox. HM Prison Service.

'The statement of purpose for Her Majesty's Prison Service is "Her Majesty's Prison Service serves the public by keeping in custody those committed by the courts. Our duty is to look after them with humanity and help them lead law abiding and useful lives in custody and after release" '

KM discusses how Minister was asked to accept the draft policy recommendation before the May stakeholder meeting. This was before MOJ policy makers realised single sex exceptions CAN be used in prion. /18

The new policy enables no discretion when placing transwomen with a GRC in female estate. This is despite the fact that single-sex exception could be lawfully applied /19

So the MoJ think female prisoners deserve less dignified treatment with regards to accommodation apart from the opposite sex, than that laid out in the Geneva Convention for female prisoners of war?

Article on Judicial Review if anyone’s a bit more background
www.ashurst.com/en/news-and-insights/legal-updates/judicial-review/

If the MOJ have misdirected themselves as to the law that would clearly fall within the scope of a court’s JR powers.

www.noconflicttheysaid.org/

If anyone has any experiences of males in womens prisons, you can document, and share these by following the link above.

Thank you for this thread. I always find live tweeting really hard to follow.

Re MOJ not believing single sex exemption applies to prisons: It’s shocking (or is it?) how very vulnerable women have been thrown under a bus for the want of risking upsetting or offending the trans activist lobby. They just didn’t care. Didn’t want to take the risk of asking awkward questions, when it was only about safeguarding women.

Too many times in this, women are the collateral damage in what’s seen as some cheap and easy virtue signalling. It’s all seen as cost free, because the costs to us don’t matter.

The link came from this MN thread:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4178125-How-the-mighty-have-fallen-The-Age-vs-Holly-Lawford-Smith

They say that prisons aren't providing a service

The MOJ about page uses the word service 11 times. An MOJ priority is to be ^A prison and probation service that reforms offenders*

www.gov.uk/government/organisations/ministry-of-justice/about

Someone, anyone, - is this a case of MOJ knowing they were incorrect when saying EA did not apply in prison and then a woman prisoner having to go to court, at great expense to get them to do something they should have been doing anyway????? Ministry of Justice

KM discusses how Minister was asked to accept the draft policy recommendation before the May stakeholder meeting. This was before MOJ policy makers realised single sex exceptions CAN be used in prion. /18
The new policy enables no discretion when placing transwomen with a GRC in female estate. This is despite the fact that single-sex exception could be lawfully applied /19

I have a question about the scope and power of the JR.

What can the JR do and how binding is it? I assume if all goes well it can force the MOJ to revise its policy to ensure that males aren’t put in female prisons any more.

Would that still be binding on a future government? Supposing the law got rewritten (e.g. Stonewall got its way on single sex exemptions in the Equality Act) would female prisoners be safe then?

KM: The minister 'cleared' the trans policy in March 2019. This was before MOJ policy makers were alerted by NW/RG to the fact that single-sex exceptions could apply in prison. /20

Redactions in ministerial statement means we don't know if minister was ever told that single sex exceptions can apply and could be an alternative policy choice /21.

KM: The minister 'cleared' the trans policy in March 2019. This was before MOJ policy makers were alerted by NW/RG to the fact that single-sex exceptions could apply in prison. /20

Redactions in ministerial statement means we don't know if minister was ever told that single sex exceptions can apply and could be an alternative policy choice /21.

@allmywhat

I find the idea that the MOJ didn't know that it could use the single-sex exceptions in the EA rather quite incredible. I just can't believe that it is true. And if it is true how do they expect other services to understand that this is an option that is open to them.

Are the MOJ a Stonewall Champion by any chance?

bet the 'advice' on signal sex exemptions is in the redacted bit

I was joking but...

Are the MOJ a Stonewall Champion by any chance? You betcha. How else could this have happened. Time to sue the government for our money back for all the times we've had to go to court to sort this stuff out