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According to @SexMattersOrg on Twitter the Govt have backed down on the MOMA (Maternity) Bill and will now use the word 'mother' not 'person' in the legislation!

Women did this! We are winning!

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@WeAreJackieWeaver

Remove the terms "mother" and "father"

I can see where rap singers aral!e going to have to sing about someone being an absolute "M-Bomb F-Bomb". Radical !

I had not noticed the sneaking use of bi instead of bisexual.

Little fuckers.

We recommend using the term "bi" rather than "bisexual". Bi is an umbrella term used to describe an emotional, romantic and/or sexual orientation towards more than one gender.

Don't use bisexual because that orientation is now, like all the rest, based on gender.

'Bi' can now be comprehensively heterosexual, or homosexual, according to stonewall.

Gay can be bisexual or heterosexual and of course so can lesbian, which can also be gay. Or straight.

It really is jibber jabber.

There is no sense to it.

@zzizzer

I had not noticed the sneaking use of bi instead of bisexual.

Little fuckers.

Yeah, 'bi' has connotations of 'both', suggesting that sex is binary. As it is.

Whilst 'transexual' is still used by some members of the trans community, it's considered outdated and should never be used in place of "trans" or to refer to individuals/communities that do not explicitly self-determine as "transexual".

this is exact guff was trotted out to me when I questioned the trans policy in our local hospital trust. Their policy allows anyone to self-id onto the female wards (including the part-timers). It explicitly states that in the event of a clash of needs (between the women and the trans people), the needs of the trans people come first. They also threaten staff with prosecution and a large fine if they discuss a patient's trans status with anyone except in a strictly medical context

Straight out of Stonewall.

"Gender reassignment" is the legal term used in equalities legislation. However, it's a contentious term that Stonewall's Trans Advisory Group feels should be reviewed

So, Stonewall are going to ignore the Equality Act and not be shy about it?

@andyoldlabour

"Gender reassignment" is the legal term used in equalities legislation. However, it's a contentious term that Stonewall's Trans Advisory Group feels should be reviewed

So, Stonewall are going to ignore the Equality Act and not be shy about it?

‘Stonelaw’ - and the problem is that organisations that are supposed to enforce the actual law (the police) don’t question this.

SW are not shy about changing the language of the law. What's suprising is even government offices and organisations that deal wit the law seem unable to say no to SW.

I'm just glad my Council had much more pressing concerns such as dealing with serious flooding and £100 million stripped from their budget than climbing up the Workplace Index.

Congratulations /s

The word 'mother' now applies to a parent legally recognised as a man (trans man), so you have succeeded in making 'mother' into a gender-neutral word.

@Quadzilla

SW are not shy about changing the language of the law. What's suprising is even government offices and organisations that deal wit the law seem unable to say no to SW.

I'm just glad my Council had much more pressing concerns such as dealing with serious flooding and £100 million stripped from their budget than climbing up the Workplace Index.

I think as more & more local authorities budgets come under massive pressure which they will, fewer & fewer will have money to spend on Stonewall

@MadBadDaddy

Congratulations /s

The word 'mother' now applies to a parent legally recognised as a man (trans man), so you have succeeded in making 'mother' into a gender-neutral word.

The McConnell case denoted trans men as mothers.

I don’t give a stuff whether or not it’s gender neutral I only care that it is not sex neutral.

@MadBadDaddy

Congratulations /s

The word 'mother' now applies to a parent legally recognised as a man (trans man), so you have succeeded in making 'mother' into a gender-neutral word.

Nope. If mother is now a gender neutral word then it's as a result of the Freddy McConnell case, where the judgment stated that the child's mother is the person who gestated the pregnancy. The wording of the amendment just reflected that.

The word 'mother' now applies to a parent legally recognised as a man (trans man), so you have succeeded in making 'mother' into a gender-neutral word.

From my point of view, that is the aim.

I think 'gender' is synonymous with 'oppressive stereotype'.

The word 'mother' now applies to a parent legally recognised as a man (trans man), so you have succeeded in making 'mother' into a gender-neutral word

But it only applies to one sex. Females. The only sex that is able to give birth. And it's good that it incorporates transmen, as they are biological females.

Well yeah, as others have said, transmen are still female though, not sure what point you think you've scored there

Thank you cards now sent

A "mother" doesn't always refer to a woman now, is what has happened.

In the case of Freddie MacConnell, the judge acknowledged in all possible ways that Freddie is a man, but it was beyond the court's powers to reflect that on the birth cert.

I also believe this ruling has unintended consequences, such as handing some power to anti-abortion campaigners, and whilst many women feel they are mothers from the moment the test turns blue, many do not, and this ruling does them no favours.

I also believe this ruling has unintended consequences, such as handing some power to anti-abortion campaigners,

In what way?

A "mother" doesn't always refer to a woman now, is what has happened

But it will always refer to a biological female.

I don’t give a stuff whether or not it’s gender neutral I only care that it is not sex neutral.

Exactly this.

you have succeeded in making 'mother' into a gender-neutral word.

Indeed.

And then the next step is to make clear that "woman" is a gender-neutral word - it means "adult human female", and thus applies to Freddie McConnell, despite their "gender", and does not apply to Eddie Izzard, despite their "gender".

The thing is, you see, we are "gender critical" and hence want EVERYTHING to be gender-neutral. Gender is to be ignored. Sex, on the other hand...

@Erkrie

I also believe this ruling has unintended consequences, such as handing some power to anti-abortion campaigners,

In what way?

twitter.com/NaomiMc/status/1365454967885152257

Why are Stonewall discouraging use of clear legal terms like gender reassignment and transsexual?

I also believe this ruling has unintended consequences, such as handing some power to anti-abortion campaigners,

What power?

I suspect that if a pregnant Minister wants to claim maternity leave, which is what this is about, she probably isn't planning to have an abortion.