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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

History in the making! Watch Parliament Live at 2.30pm!

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Sunkisses · 25/02/2021 14:19

According to @SexMattersOrg on Twitter the Govt have backed down on the MOMA (Maternity) Bill and will now use the word 'mother' not 'person' in the legislation!

Women did this! We are winning!

Tune in live here at 2.30pm to see history in the making: www.parliamentlive.tv/Event/Index/3ca1efa2-16a5-489d-a5a0-5d929bff81f6

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ethelredonagoodday · 25/02/2021 15:07

@Sunkisses

Baroness Barker (Lib Dem) claims that women's rights arguements come from the "alt right" Hmm
This argument pisses me off. I'm am a lifelong leftie, but I do believe women's hard-won rights are being eroded and must be protected!
Sunkisses · 25/02/2021 15:08

"There is no more powerful word in the English language than the word mother" - Lord Cormack (Conservative)

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fastwigglylines · 25/02/2021 15:08

Lord Hunt mentioned the Minister (which one?) said there would be a review alongside the amendment. Does anyone know what he's talking about?

highame · 25/02/2021 15:09

The beginning of the beginning. The claiming back is at the start - Lord McCormack, great

BuntingEllacott · 25/02/2021 15:09

wow.

what a bloody amazing tonic to listen to these powerful voices speaking up for women. Wonderful.

MarshaBradyo · 25/02/2021 15:10

I’m not watching but sounds good

Akire · 25/02/2021 15:10

There was a women talking the other day on the radio about covid and maternity leave she said “for pregnant women... I mean pregnant people” the presenter didn’t say a word. This is what it’s come too people having to correct themselves.

EmbarrassingAdmissions · 25/02/2021 15:12

I'm irritated with myself for a feeling of gratitude.

How on earth did social circumstances deteriorate to such a position where I'm grateful for this wholly rational crumb.

MarshaBradyo · 25/02/2021 15:12

@Akire

There was a women talking the other day on the radio about covid and maternity leave she said “for pregnant women... I mean pregnant people” the presenter didn’t say a word. This is what it’s come too people having to correct themselves.
I cannot believe how erasing it is to correct from the word woman

It’s insane

Sunkisses · 25/02/2021 15:13

Lord Winston reminds Baroness Barker that he is not a "bigot" for disagreeing with her. He reminds her that he was the first doctor in Europe to offer IVF for lesbian couples

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RevIMJolly · 25/02/2021 15:14

It’s like the grown ups have finally entered the room. I never thought I would say that about the House of Lords.

Datun · 25/02/2021 15:15

Good. And yes to the PP who said most people don't even know this is happening.

We just have to make sure they do know.

Sunkisses · 25/02/2021 15:18

Lord Winston, one of the foremost and respected reproductive doctors, reminds the House that humans have around 30 trillion cells in our bodies that originates at the moment of embyonic genesis, and they are all either XX or XY

Reminds the House that no one change sex!

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cheeseismydownfall · 25/02/2021 15:19

Thank fuck for The House of Lords.

BuntingEllacott · 25/02/2021 15:21

Lord Winston is really clear. Sex is bimodal in every possible iteration in humans, and supporting women in their pregnancies is utterly vital, and it's not bigoted to say so. (Interesting asides about the affect of hormones and conditions in the womb on sexuality, but obviously sexuality is different to what sex you are)

MarshaBradyo · 25/02/2021 15:21

@Sunkisses

Lord Winston, one of the foremost and respected reproductive doctors, reminds the House that humans have around 30 trillion cells in our bodies that originates at the moment of embyonic genesis, and they are all either XX or XY

Reminds the House that no one change sex!

Just caught him he was great
highame · 25/02/2021 15:21

Lord Winston. His biggest issue has been this, correspondence was anonymous and the worst. Baroness Barker coming under criticism, but nicely. Words proper definitions not been used. Gender & sexuality Professor Roger Short seminal, research isn't a single issue XX or XY fundamental 3 days of fertilisation ova testis exceptional rare and have all been XX. Hormonal sex starts before birth, women have testosterone, Brain sex determined well before birth. They affect the development of a child - chest-feeding & breastfeeding very different. Need to debate these issues will need to come back to this at another date.

Environment (for women) challenged, need for praising maternity doing more especially disadvantaged

Bit disjointed - others have said, so pick the bones out

cheeseismydownfall · 25/02/2021 15:23

Lord Hunt really gets it, doesn't he?

Shedbuilder · 25/02/2021 15:23

Baroness Barker denies any evidence to support Lord Winston's statement.

I'm joking — but we all know people such as her who cling to irrational, emotional, sentimental beliefs despite all the evidence to the contrary.

MiaChia · 25/02/2021 15:24

This is so heartening 🤗

Sunkisses · 25/02/2021 15:24

I'm just so happy about this. Just in time for Mothers Day!
#MumsTheWord

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BattyOrange · 25/02/2021 15:25

I agree cheese
I've often wondered what was the point of a bunch of unelected peers having a say in our laws etc. but now I see that they can consider and comment without fear of deselection or losing the public vote so they're free to challenge.

Sunkisses · 25/02/2021 15:26

Baroness Nicholson pays tribute to the brilliant cross-party work that went into this victory for women's rights. She says this is only the beginning!

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highame · 25/02/2021 15:26

Baroness Noakes being thanked by the Baroness, designed to help one person only, now for all mothers. Now door opened to more debates. Large group working together + crossbenchers and growing everyday.

The beginning of clarifying legislation which has become rather muddled
#mumstheword

MarshaBradyo · 25/02/2021 15:27

Enjoyed listening to Baroness Nicholson - a great speaker

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