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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Winesalot wins ...

171 replies

QueenoftheAir · 18/02/2021 10:15

the internet today.

Thank you!

and No.

OP posts:
Whatwouldscullydo · 18/02/2021 10:21

What did i miss

MichelleofzeResistance · 18/02/2021 10:22

It was a post in a thousand. Wink

Beamur · 18/02/2021 10:23

Which thread?

OnlyTheLangoftheTitBerg · 18/02/2021 10:26

Was that the Mr Collins paraphrase, or was that someone else?

MichelleofzeResistance · 18/02/2021 10:31

Incidentally that thread is now being turned into swiss cheese at high speed. I read it early this morning before all the reports were acted on: I saw nothing offensive or uncivil and would have no idea what any of those posts did wrong. However that thread for some reason is obviously really, really causing strong feelings.

What could it be about women civilly saying no and explaining their reasons that could cause all this urgent reporting and deletion? It's a mystery.

lifeturnsonadime · 18/02/2021 10:34

I hope the posts from late last night weren't deleted. Off to look.

Yes Winesalot, I stayed up to see the 1000th post and yours was perfect!

QueenoftheAir · 18/02/2021 10:35

Indeed, @MichelleofzeResistance

Someone's a bit scared of the sunlight ... Or a sore loser (both?)

OP posts:
Dalyesque · 18/02/2021 10:41

Star Star Star to all the brilliant women who contributed such clear posts. It was pretty much cheese when I caught up early. Why do mnhq think they are doing anyone a favour by deleting so many of us. Surely it can’t be all about threats of court action, and from what I saw the posts were civil, but robust. The truth appears to be hurting who, precisely?

Dalyesque · 18/02/2021 10:43

I think Arabella archived, but I am finding it difficult to find all the pages. What do I have to do? do I have to join the archive site?

lifeturnsonadime · 18/02/2021 10:44

There are a silly number of deletions from last nigh including one of mine presumably for pointing out what 2 posters have in common. Sigh.

Winesalot · 18/02/2021 10:44

aww! thanks. It was lucky timing.

Thank YOU all who are continuing to inspire us and who continue despite strikes to ensure that our voices are heard. I came to this board nearly 18 months ago when the dissonance of what women were being asked to do was so strong that I had to find someone else to discuss it with.

I can make off hand comments to other friends and they get it, but we don't get the chance to sit and discuss without an audience.

That thread was so important and I thank MNHQ for allowing it to stay. I have asked how in the future I can word something to make the point that earned me yet another strike, I don't think I will get an answer. Because, every time we post in a way that points out directly how inequality is being enabled (particularly in the way we have been limited in our discourse), it is judged and is on the knife edge of whether it is acceptable or not.

I mean, I can be verbose and have been said to write essays, but I generally write for the readers not the posters. However, I always try to keep within the guidelines because I view each of our voices as significant and precious.

And I this past couple of months, I have seen so many wonderful new posters that these threads have become enriched with new perspectives and new experiences.

So, thanks to all the voices of FWR. Even those that might be here to frustrate us, because those voices allow so many more to join. Those voices are a real-time example of what women and children are talking about.

But, mostly thanks to all the supportative voices here. I have learned so much and been so very inspired every day.

Floisme · 18/02/2021 10:45

It's a very illuminating thread - always instructive to see which conversations get under some people's skin.

Wrongsideofhistorymyarse · 18/02/2021 10:45

Well done

BarbaraofKent · 18/02/2021 10:47

Is this the 50:50 thread?

lifeturnsonadime · 18/02/2021 10:48

@BarbaraofKent

Is this the 50:50 thread?
yes
Winesalot · 18/02/2021 10:53

Oh dear. I just looked back. It is about the only post of mine that was allowed to stand for that entire thread.

That thread seemed to push too many buttons it seems.

Sadly, it will not change the minds of those who feel that they are higher than righteousness itself.

MichelleofzeResistance · 18/02/2021 10:55

I always try to keep within the guidelines

I think the massive majority of FWR regulars do. Many are unintentional breaches, and the subtlety of error that earns punishment creeps ever high.

OnlyTheLangoftheTitBerg · 18/02/2021 10:58

I have now caught up. And yes, perfect timing.

Winesalot · 18/02/2021 10:59

Many are unintentional breaches, and the subtlety of error that earns punishment creeps ever high.

I have noticed this trend. We seem to be very constrained to even mention biological sex differences on some threads.

SheGonBringThatAttitudeHome2 · 18/02/2021 11:01

Do we know (or have an estimate) how many of the thousand posts were deleted?

I am so pleased that Arabella archived it.

gardenbird48 · 18/02/2021 11:02

I haven't looked to see the recent deletions - I hope there are not too many key ones?

Flowers Wines - a good win :¬))

It would be really good if we could get this to the attention of the 5050 Parliament people - so much information there 'straight from the horses mouth' - you would think that would be invaluable for a political organisation to have that level of focused engagement.

Has anyone got any useful contacts that could pass it onto the right person?

lifeturnsonadime · 18/02/2021 11:08

gardenbird I don't but I completely agree with you that this needs to be highlighted to whoever the appropriate people are.

What I took from the whole thread is that some women's representation places are being given to transwomen and that there doesn't seem to be a methodology used by them to ensure that they represent the views of all women. This is a concern as our voices which were already underrepresented are further lost.

I will happily support any action to highlight this so that all women's voices are properly represented.

ValancyRedfern · 18/02/2021 11:11

I highly recommend everyone on the 50:50 thread reads the Pseudo- realities thread.

'Second, the very assertion of pseudo-reality demoralizes all who are pressed into engaging with it by the mere fact of being something false that must be treated as true. We should never underestimate how psychologically weakening and damaging it is to be forced to treat as true something that is not true, with the effect strengthening the more obviously false it is'

YetAnotherSpartacus · 18/02/2021 11:13

So many deletions :(

ValancyRedfern · 18/02/2021 11:15

The email address for 5050 is [email protected]

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