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Omid Djalili on women's rights issues - not funny at all

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derxa · 16/02/2021 19:01

mobile.twitter.com/omid9/status/1361739351911235591

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OneEpisode · 16/02/2021 20:11

He did call those women nazis and is *amused^that not everyone agrees with him?

HermitsLife · 16/02/2021 20:17

Everyones a nazi these days Hmm

Iveputmyselfonthenaughtystep · 16/02/2021 20:19

Wait - what's the context here?

CaraDuneRedux · 16/02/2021 20:19

Bugger.

I hate it when a bloke you thought was one of the okay ones turns out to be yet another misogynist.

Sheleg · 16/02/2021 20:22

Gobshite.

NiceGerbil · 16/02/2021 20:22

I don't get it either

PotholeParadies · 16/02/2021 20:22

He's calling everyone a Nazi or Adolf! This is not a good look for him.

Omid Djalili  on women's rights issues  - not funny at all
PotholeParadies · 16/02/2021 20:25

People, this is the original post. It kicked off when feminists said the issues were far more complicated than he was making it sound and the people being deplatformed were left-wing feminists.

twitter.com/omid9/status/1361620826089549826?s=19

Omid Djalili  on women's rights issues  - not funny at all
HermitsLife · 16/02/2021 20:26

Is he feeling okay?

derxa · 16/02/2021 20:28

@Iveputmyselfonthenaughtystep

Wait - what's the context here?
He retweeted this www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-55995979 Then said this: "There’s food rotting on the docks, 1000's of companies going out of business, the worst death rate in the world and they're worried that students don't really want to listen to Nazis?" The article contained "Prof Selina Todd, an Oxford University academic who previously had an invitation to a conference celebrating women withdrawn over her stance on transgender rights issues, welcomed government action although she said the free speech champion could be a "blunt instrument".

She told BBC Radio 4's Today programme that universities have "dismally failed" to uphold freedom of debate in recent years.

"Things have got a lot worse for academics and for students - many of whom get in touch with me anonymously to say how frightened they are to speak out," she said.

In December, Cambridge University said its proposed statement on free speech would no longer require staff and students to be "respectful" of differing views, following an intervention from academics who said calling for respect could undermine academic freedom."
So GC women piled on. I don't know what his intention was. Did he mean to dismiss women's concerns or is it all just a jolly jape for him?

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NiceGerbil · 16/02/2021 20:33

Malala isn't mentioned in that article. Has she been no platformed somewhere?

I don't get it.

ZuttZeVootEeeVro · 16/02/2021 20:34

I don't know why he's claiming that the article didn't mention feminism when it clearly did. I wonder if he understood, or maybe he didn't read, the orginal article?

Calling people nazis used to be the go to for 13 year old boys. Now its middle aged men.

PotholeParadies · 16/02/2021 20:36

He's quote-tweeting a response to his earlier idiocy. Responder quoted Malala's views of freedom of speech.

Okokokbear · 16/02/2021 20:48

I don't know what is going on here I'm not gc. But I do agree it is disresctful of the victims of the nazis to go round calling people a nazi just because you don't agree with them. Call them a fascist or whatever. But this doesn't sit right with me.

PotholeParadies · 16/02/2021 20:59

Agreed, Okokokbear. It trivialises what happened, doesn't it?

Okokokbear · 16/02/2021 21:10

@PotholeParadies

Agreed, Okokokbear. It trivialises what happened, doesn't it?
I feel it does.

And obviously the nazis didn't just start killing people over night there was a rise in fascism and part of that is people talking about their views. I sort of personally feel that organisations and buisness should be able to decide who reflects their ethos and then people can decide if they want anything to do with that.

So for example a buisness near me hosted a 5g conspiracy theory event with David Ike. I think he's dangerous and talks shit. So obviously didn't go to the event but also don't use the buisness.

ScreamingBeans · 16/02/2021 21:14

The state of him.

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krustykittens · 16/02/2021 21:40

Does anyone feel we are going backwards in terms of women's rights? Rape is practically de-criminalised, we don't have equal pay, women dying every week at the hands of their partners and now we can't even say that our sex exists as a biological fact without being the targets of physical and verbal abuse. I have lost two friends over this because they believe that anyone who disagrees that transwomen are women is a hateful bigot who doesn't have the right to breath (paraphrasing but you get the gist). Universities are amongst the worst for fostering this attitude and there is no debate. We are just expected to hand over our sex-based, hard won rights without a murmur and just be grateful we are allowed to exist.

Wearywithteens · 16/02/2021 23:05

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MissBarbary · 16/02/2021 23:35

@Okokokbear

I don't know what is going on here I'm not gc. But I do agree it is disresctful of the victims of the nazis to go round calling people a nazi just because you don't agree with them. Call them a fascist or whatever. But this doesn't sit right with me.
"Fascist" isn't much better. It just means (a) someone disagrees with you and (b) everyone who votes Conservative.
IvyTwines · 16/02/2021 23:35

@Wearywithteens

krustykittens - I feel exactly the same. I keep hoping a miracle will happen and someone highly influential and universally liked will declare the plain truth about the emperors new clothes but no, every day it just gets worse.
She did and look what happened - online charmers making an RIP hashtag with tends of thousands of likes trend on Twitter, then when some people put their head above the parapet to condemn the rape and death threats being sent to her, another group of young women in the arts attacked them.
AdHominemNonSequitur · 17/02/2021 00:08

@Okokokbear Sneaky. Did that make you feel better? Meaningful comparisons can definitely be made with totalitarian uprisings, but not with GC academics requesting free speech. The SJM censorship and propaganda machine in action currently bears quite a few similarities with Germany circa 1940. Abigail Shriers books being burnt, the public being convinced of moral superiority, lofty use of rhetoric and mantra and powerful words like justice. Rainbow flags and symbols.The vilification and othering of a shared enemy who embody evil versus the purity of the true believers. The peer pressure to conform. But overall I think the current situation is much more comparable with totalitarian ideologies on the left.The Red army of the Chinese Cultural Revolution where students went after the academics. The stinking old ninth. Substitute "terfs" or "transphobes" for bourgeoise and substitute SJW for the people's army.

AdHominemNonSequitur · 17/02/2021 08:11

And the targeting of youth.

donquixotedelamancha · 17/02/2021 08:12

I've paid good money to watch Omid Djalili live. I did not think I could dislike him more after that.

Looking at his tweets I don't think he has any clue about the issues. I doubt he even read the article before posting a reflex 'Tories bad' comment.

He thinks he's much cleverer than he is so, of course, the people pointing out the 'Nazis' he references include left wing women 'don't understand nuance' because he can't possibly be wrong.

DickKerrLadies · 17/02/2021 08:42

Remember when invoking Godwin's law was seen as a bad thing?

[wanders off muttering about when the internet was all fields]