Joanna Cherry (SNP) sacked

[LittleRa]

twitter.com/joannaccherry/status/1356233346565730304?s=21

I was never keen on Alex Salmond. But seems like there was a joint effort to stitch him up. I'd love to see the downfall of Nicola Sturgeon and her husband. They've got too big for their boots.

@CharlieParley

What I should add here is that the Rape Crisis Scotland complaint amounts to "How dare you ask for private messages exchanged by victims!"

And

"How dare you make disparaging remarks about messages exchanged by victims/about victims!"

However, that is not what happened. Committee requested messages exchanged between people holding a particular position in Scotland. They made remarks about them in that function.

They did not know (because the identity of the complainers is protected) that this included all of the complainers.

But thanks to Rape Crisis Scotland we all know that now.

Good grief! Read it. Not linking, for obvious reasons.

That statement was post the day after George Galloway uploaded this video. If he has done the Jigsaw ID, I wonder if he stands by this?

"Now there are many . . . who say things like, "Well 14 women couldn't have made that up". Well it depends who the 14 women were, doesn't it? And if you knew, which you cannot know because of the laws on anonymity, then you'd conclude, as I did long ago and Craig establishes in his affidavits today, that a conspiracy was hatched to send Alex Salmond to prison."

The name of the SNP member who sent the treat to JC which caused her to need police advice has been published on Twitter by an account called Bridges for Indy.

Is that allowed - people have got into trouble for retweeting ‘named names’. I’m very curious though!

Well apparently the police are fine with it, but I have to say I'm wary too, so I'm not linking to the video or posts.

If it is who they say it is, that is utterly terrifying. Previous convictions. I hope he is put away where he can't hurt or terrorise anyone ever again.

I guess that contributed to the police assessment that it was a credible threat.

Yes, for sure. It just makes it more frightening when you read about this person.

Getting really, really fucked off with how women get so much flack. How do we even have any female politicians? I couldn't handle the stress. Something has to change.

@ThatIsNotMyUsername

Is that allowed - people have got into trouble for retweeting ‘named names’. I’m very curious though!

If he's been arrested and charged then anyone claiming he is guilty or revealing information about previous convictions could be in contempt of court and more importantly it could fuck up the prosecution.

Agree, it must be so stressful and upsetting. My VAWG consultation submission had a bit in it about the aggressive and threatening atmosphere towards women taking part in public discourse as a means of keeping us out of it by making us too frightened to participate fully. It's disgusting.

Rather than start a new thread, I believe this is relevant to this thread.

David Paisley (Scottish actor) has called Joanna a transphobe I believe and she has taken action.

www.scotsman.com/news/politics/joanna-cherry-takes-legal-action-against-actor-in-disproportionate-move-3141696?amp

mobile.twitter.com/DavidPaisley/status/1363528618593370114

Thank you again Joanna for literally standing up and saying enough of this actual literal batshitness.

This too. Kirsty Blackman has spoken.

www.theblether.scot/modern-feminism

"I am a woman, I live as a woman, and I dress however I like.

I know how hard won this was. That's why when we hear 'Gender Critical' individuals talking about 'proper women' or 'real women' I am gravely worried. Policing what women wear or what they look like is drawn directly from the 1950s my Granny finished school in.

Absolutely, biology is real, but it is not possible to tell what chromosomes or genitals someone has by looking at them. I do not believe there should be restrictions on how to 'woman'."

Cherry denies the story, says she has not taken legal action.

It is hotting up in the SNP. Cherry, Kenny McAskill and Chris McEleny will probably be expelled.

As for Blackman's article, either she doesn't understand the GC position or she is deliberately misrepresenting it.

Kirsty has tweeted about this article and the comments I can see agree with you Blackforestcake. Someone has sent her JKR's statement too. I also found it a confusing piece.

I couldn't give a fuck how anyone dresses. But there has to be protections for women including refuges, prisons and sport.

mobile.twitter.com/KirstySNP/status/1363560368430145538?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

David Paisley has the letter on his Twitter page and his twitter's supporters seem to have it in for the law firm too.

Jeez she gets paid for this 💃💃😂😂😂

Total,fud

know how hard won this was. That's why when we hear 'Gender Critical' individuals talking about 'proper women' or 'real women' I am gravely worried. Policing what women wear or what they look like is drawn directly from the 1950s my Granny finished school in.

This is an idiotic take.

@BlackForestCake

Why did Salmond’s many political enemies never bring his allegedly well-known sexpestiness up while he was first minister?

Because "freedom" and he was the big man who was going to deliver it.

He failed abysmally. I actually felt sorry, briefly, for Sturgeon on the morning after when he went into hiding and left her to face the press.

I'm blocked by Paisley despite having never tweeted anything ever let alone interacted with him. I see when I log out he's suggesting Brodies are "lawyering wrong"

I can't be bothered explaining why he is wrong but he is wrong.

Cherry did her traineeship with Brodies. Brodies is (are?) one of the top legal firms in Scotland.

I’ve read that Kirsty Blackman piece twice and I just can’t compute. Clothes and how we dress - that’s what it all comes down to. The choice to wear skirts and heels or slob around in jeans - that’s the grand prize of Feminism? And it’s the clothes and dress itself so people who aren’t women can dress ‘as’ women and ‘be’ women. And how marvellous this is. Gender non-conforming turns into sex non-conforming - swap the words sex and gender around so much it becomes a slight of hand and while you’re being deliberately distracted, whoosh, your Rights have disappeared.

It’s like at the very precise point in her argument where there should be understanding, it just slips through her fingers and a completely illogical conclusion is reached instead. You don’t have to be constrained like my 90 year old Granny in her twin-set and pearls world - anyone can now be a woman and live in harmony. Or something like that. The main conclusion seems to be ‘aren’t I a lovely person and don’t we live in a fantastic world where you can dress how you like, and declare yourself any sex you want.

Well a phrase by Mary Wollstonecraft comes to mind. Paraphrasing - it appears to me that Kirsty Blackman's doesn't have a very ambitious view of the fruits of female emancipation. Her (or him/they, don't want to misgender) is fairly limited and limiting. It appears to me she/he/they/furrybeastie thinks the great leap is that we get the enormous freedom to decorate ourselves and our cages how we want. We can wear jeans OR skirts and put up blue curtains (not just pink). Such freedoms make me dizzy! Their vision of smashing the patriarchy bring a tear to my eye.

I particularly love the bit where adults of the future can marry a man, they can marry a woman OR they can marry someone who is non binary.

@MaudTheInvincible

The name of the SNP member who sent the treat to JC which caused her to need police advice has been published on Twitter by an account called Bridges for Indy.

JC has tweeted that the guy who threatened her was in court today. twitter.com/joannaccherry/status/1370436720739647488?s=20

Creep.

(A few) More details here mobile.twitter.com/joannaccherry/status/1370468862077116419

Joanna

Have any of the SNP high heid yins said anything supportive of Cherry about this?

She's been quoted a lot in the Sunday papers. love the voice reason shining through