Innocent drinks

[Biscuitsanddoombar]

So another brand proves that they’re not keen on women having thoughts

When I looked last night they hadn’t replied to a single person asking about this but were still happily bollocking on with cutesy replies to anyone engaging with them about their products. Isn’t that what the kids call “doubling down” 😂?

If they can cause a storm like this then refuse to address the issue (whatever the supposed wrongthink), in effect dismissing the concerns of hundreds of people politely asking for clarification, they deserve the boycotts. Be interesting to see if they give this any further thought.

This is the issue... They have jumped at the behest of one man who has posted misogynistic content and has 10 followers, opening the floodgates for other people to also make demands about who they associate with, and also endorsing the completely incorrect statement that Maggie is transphobic... but they seem to be selective about who they listen and respond to... and so far it remains the one man and not the hundreds of women... a truly dreadful move when women largely hold the family purse strings. They’ve got themselves into a right pickle.

Well unfortunately for them, the patriarchy means a lot of women do the food shop. Shan't be buying from them again!

@Bloodyhamabeads

I thought this was an interesting comment from the guy who originally tweeted Innocent...classic abuser tactic. Is there a name for this?

I can’t articulate very well what I mean, but it reminds me of when two siblings are fighting and one retaliates and the child that instigated it says ‘you’re overreacting, it’s not that bad’.

For a start, how is her age relevant? Seems he's dismissing her on the basis of a 74 year old being unimportant. Which is pretty inhumane. And then, yes, he's thought it important that Innocent shouldn't follow a particular person, sent them a vaguely threatening tweet 'you wouldnt want us to think you were associating with someone like that, would you?' - then minimises and ridicules anyone who thinks it matters that innocent have caved to his bullying and done as he told them to. I don't know if there's a name for it but bullying it is, for sure.

They have jumped at the behest of one man who has posted misogynistic content and has 10 followers, opening the floodgates for other people to also make demands about who they associate with, and also endorsing the completely incorrect statement

Precisely this.

What on earth is the point of playing the wittering 'please stroke us' game? It's childish and petty, it's not something grown ups should be stooping to. And I've got no time or interest in any company stupid enough to wander into this kind of game playing and casual misogyny for political point scoring.

Thanks for the insight into your company Innocent, have a lovely life.

How thick do you have to be as a manufacturer to dabble about in this kind of political mud? Any position taken immediately alienates some of your custom, when your survival is based (hello, pandemic, recession? Brexit?) on making every single sale you can. And the ease with which they happily turned on women isn't something they can now brush out of their public reputation and history. Muppets.

Are there any big companies that don't have a Twitter account?

Clever them.

Personally I'm disinclined to give business to companies that bully women. Shame really as DD enjoys the odd innocent smoothie.
Although the fact that they are now owned by coca cola gives me further pause. Has anyone read Mark Thomas's book about their business practices? Might make you not want to buy any of their stuff ever again.

The fact that they advertise their drinks as healthy is insane.
They are insanely unhealthy, no fibre to help breakdown the fruit juice and loaded with sugar. Awful stuff.

For a start, how is her age relevant? Seems he's dismissing her on the basis of a 74 year old being unimportant. Which is pretty inhumane.

Pure ageism. The arrogance of someone younger not realising older people may have more life experience and time to think about things.

What I'm mildly curious about is that someone in that company did follow Margaret Nelson in the first place. I really do hope that somewhere behind the scenes that someone is explaining to their colleague why women's rights and free speech matter too.

Yes Errol surely the best outcome would be for the chief exec to come out a la Andrew Neill after the Spectator/ Co-Op thing, acknowledge the social media overreach, even challenge the idea a follow equals an endorsement. For a company that has always excelled at this kind of marketing and basked in the high profile it’s brought them, you’d think senior management would be horrified at this kind of bad press. Won’t hold my breath though.

Won't be buying anymore of their goods in my family shop. A youngster in my family particularly liked their stuff. Thanks for showing yourself @innocent. Why do they seem to agree that the safety, privacy and dignity of women and girls is a bad thing? Or appear to support bullies or those who want to trample on women and girls? Misogyny is it, eh?

On the other hand, nice to discover @Flashmaggie.

Oh, Method not going in my trolley either. Wasn't aware of them being alleged misogyny cheerleaders either. Liked the grapefruit hand wash. Over with.

Do we have a list of misogynistic companies?

@OvaHere

Innocent drinks follow 31.2k people. I wonder how long 'leftie rage' had to search to find someone amongst their followers who had committed this particular sort of wrongthink?

Who takes notice of who smoothie companies are following?

I expect it will be the reverse. This bloke will have been checking the followers of said 74 year old woman to see whom he could pick off and bully. Not at all creepy, no siree.

Yes, and when I checked creepy man's followers, I found I was already blocked by most of them (who obvs I'd never interacted with so assume blocker list).

Another one for the boycott list. It’ll be better for me and the kids are they are just a bottle of sugar.

ErrolTheDragon

I think a lot of this ultra left wing ideology is soaked in ageism. The buzzwords - transphobe, Karen, boomer, gammon, T**F. I would think the person who tweeted is quite young, very immature, narcissistic, spiteful, sexist, ageist etc.

@TheCoolNightAirLikeShalimar2

Do we have a list of misogynistic companies?

Would love one of these

If Innocent sent me a lot of smoothies the local food bank would benefit.

News flash: No one in the real world cares. This board is an echo chamber.

Oooh. That's us told then.

Kind of belied by someone obviously caring enough to come here and say so

They only ever play the [wo]man with the ball.

News flash: No one in the real world cares. This board is an echo chamber

Clearly it's not. This is where the phrase radicalised on Mumsnet came from. Plenty of people lurk on here and find information. This is where the pushback on the attack on women's rights in the UK started. You will have noticed the effect of this and how it translates to UK laws and policies as the public become more aware of this. I guess you might wish it's an echo chamber, but with 7 million visitors a month to the site, that is not the definition of an echo chamber.

Mic drop Hettie.

I notice a lot of companies have "mumsnet approved" on their advertising. Companies that market their products towards families with children know where their target audience is. An echo chamber it is not.