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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

The Guardian - 'Non Transgender Girls', 'Female Transwomen' - transwomen are now the default

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MiladyBerserko · 23/01/2021 22:19

archive.md/vH9jd

Women are now 'non', no longer a word to describe us

Shocking journalism from The Guardian.

Archive link above, don't give the fuckers clicks

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Deb1Ballard · 06/02/2021 20:23

@MiladyBerserko

archive.md/vH9jd

Women are now 'non', no longer a word to describe us

Shocking journalism from The Guardian.

Archive link above, don't give the fuckers clicks

No, when discussing transgender issues there are transgender women and cisgender women.

Otherwise, they are all just women.

In fact, trans women make it a point NOT to stand out but to blend and look & act like an average woman. So they are just women unless they want to talk about being trans.

I have frequently walked through Penn Station, Grand Central, Port Authority, Victoria Station, & Kings Cross without anything more than the typical lecher guy we all hate dealing with.

Deb1Ballard · 06/02/2021 21:55

The Guardian carefully avoided the case of Mack Beggs

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mack_Beggs

Mack was a transgender boy in Texas who had competed against boys in high school and did very well. When he wanted to wrestle boys at the Varsity level in his Junior year, he was told he had to wrestle girls. He stated that it was not fair to the girls and that he would rather win or lose in fair matches against boys. The state did not have the option of telling him he couldn't compete at all.

There was a problem. Texas had a state law intended to keep trans girls from wrestling against cisgender girls. The state tried to Stop Beggs from competing because it wasn't fair. Beggs said "I agree, let me wrestle the boys".

Beggs was undefeated but the State Athletics board was bound by the law and had to FORCE Beggs to compete as a woman. Beggs not only won the championships his Junior year, but also his Senior year.

There was a lawsuit but the state just pointed to the law.

www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/transgender-texas-wrestler-wins-second-high-school-girls-title-n851106

Although Beggs never hurt any of his opponents, 3 of his opponents refuse to wrestle him, afraid of getting hurt and forfeited the match.

Bluesername · 06/02/2021 22:25

No, when discussing transgender issues there are transgender women and cisgender women.

No, there are women, and there are transwomen. 'Cis' is a completely unnecessary term.

ErrolTheDragon · 06/02/2021 22:46

The Guardian carefully avoided the case of Mack Beggs

Maybe they're equally happy for girls to be beaten by trans boys taking T as they are for them to be beaten by transgirls with natural T? Or maybe they don't really care either way about female athletes, even if they're trans. Anyway, Mack Beggs has no real bearing on the Title IX infringement Biden is endorsing.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 06/02/2021 22:53

No, when discussing transgender issues there are transgender women and cisgender women.

No there aren't. I don't identify as that term. "Woman" only will do, no need for any silly genderist word to claim that males are equally a type of woman as females, when woman literally means adult female.

"Cis" is considered an inflammatory word on MN and not conducive to civil discussion as most women in FWR don't accept it.

334bu · 06/02/2021 23:17

What's a transgender woman? Is it a female who identifies as a man or a male who identifies as a woman. ?
This is like birthing person.... Midwife ? Doctor? Mother?

QueenoftheAir · 07/02/2021 00:23

No, when discussing transgender issues there are transgender women and cisgender women.

No, the correct terminology is transwoman and woman. “Cis” is pretty offensive.

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