Bunburying and wassailing into winter - thread 7

[CaraDuneRedux]

Time for a new thread. Please can someone c&p the header post? (Am on phone.)

@PotholeParadies

Can it be prepared in any of the same ways as potato? My go-to with unfamiliar root vegetables is to serve it with potato in the same way.

I was coming to that conclusion.

There are lots of recipes for cassava cake. I assumed this would be a variation of carrot or beetroot cake but they involve tins of evaporated milk and condensed milk , dessicated coconut but no flour. And look quite weird.

There's a Victoria Wood song about dieting with the line things to do with lettuce- like throwing it away which is tempting but I hate food waste.

a derail from recipes but only for a minute.

Got my first strike the other day and really hacked off because it was nothing to do with TWAW 🤣
As you were

Well that one didn’t last long? Too pointed perhaps?

Thread I meant, not your strike highame. Sorry to hear about that.

Think there are a lot of strikes these days it seems . I keep seeing posts deleted and whole topics gone. Lots on the naughty step now I imagine.

What happened to that definition thread in AIBU?!

I suppose it will be eye opening for those who aren’t regulars on FWR that it has been deleted.

@DaisiesandButtercups

What happened to that definition thread in AIBU?!

I suppose it will be eye opening for those who aren’t regulars on FWR that it has been deleted.

MNHQ taking a look behind the scenes they say. www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4159441-The-Definition-of-Woman

I wondered what happened with that one - I thought it was a nice clear point. They were going to ‘investigate behind the scenes’ or something. Did anyone get an email?

Thanks DickKerrLadies.

I thought it was nice and clear too gardenbird48, I was enjoying reading everyone’s thoughts.

Also popping my head in here as wondering what happened to that thread. Most odd.

I missed that one entirely. Was the OP a known poster or a new name?

Missed it too. How was it going?

It was going well. Just one sex is a spectrum. Many new voices defining woman biology.

Excuse me, I don't often post on this thread as I don't think it's the place for me, but does anyone have any recipes for cassava root?

And, exactly how poisonous is it if you get it wrong?

You can make cassava chips. Peel, chop, parboil until soft and then roast in oil in the oven until crispy and golden. Generally the sort sold in U.K. supermarkets isn't the most risky kind.

I love cassava!

Quick rant time.

Work are celebrating LGBTQ history month. Fair enough. Post on discussion board about a transwoman of some historical interest - think Jan Morris era or thereabouts - not Jan, but will pretend it is, as don't want actual outing details on here.

Nice, insightful article - sort of thing that is well worth knowing about and discussing, glad the person in question posted it.

But resident TRA has immediately pitched in with "don't deadname her" because the article uses the birthname in connection with early achievements. Achievements which this person would not have been allowed to undertake had they been a woman. (Think Times sending Jan rather than James Morris to cover the Everest Expedition - it just wouldn't have happened).

To ban deadnaming, in this instance (as is so often the case), is to falsify women's history. It gets right up my nose. And there are so many examples of this. The Dick-y-pedia entry for the "Warchowski Sisters" held up as the first women to direct a big sci-fi blockbuster trilogy - except they did it as the Warchowski brothers, and anyone who thinks a major studio would have green-lit a project like the Matrix if a couple of women had pitched it has shit for brains and is living in fantasy land. Or Caitlin Jenner winning gold in the Olympic decathlon - an event which women are not eligible to enter.

I repeat: banning deadnaming falsifies women's history.

(Which I guess is the point - all part of the ongoing erasure of women and any admission ever that sex might be the basis on which we're discriminated against...)

Gah.

Rant over.

Good rant. It is infuriating. I hope somebody, somewhere, is archiving a record of history where accurate records are being kept. At some point in the future, when this episode of collective madness is over, we will need it.

And I so want to be able to say that on the work discussion board - but obviously I can't because I want to keep my job...

Good rant. Also it pretends there is something shameful about people pre-transition. There isn't. Many transsexuals reject this notion and do not consider it offensive when their pre-transition days are spoken about in this way. If transition is such a momentous decision, doesn't a ban on using their original name relegate the transition to an irrelevant, happenstance event?

I've read plenty of personal accounts now from people who have transitioned and most (probably all) referred to the early period using their birth name.

We've always handled name changes in this way. Why is this different?

making the concept of dead-naming unacceptable serves another purpose as well though.

Making it easier to conceal past history in some cases will be a huge safeguarding issue.

oops sorry, forgot about the topic of this thread with that last post. Does anyone know if threads that are taken down to 'check behind the scenes' are ever put back up again?

Usually not I thinkgardenbird

Well, I’m back after a week on the Mumsnet Naughty Step but have been cruising by for a spot of Unlogged-in Lurking from time to time

Datun I see MN has deleted your post of 30/1/2021 where you said nice things about my posts. I’m very sorry if you were collateral damage in some way. I don’t recall you saying anything that would merit deletion

I asked MN if it might be helpful to list new “banned words and phrases” in the Special Talk Guidelines, eg. the “mountaineering” one, the “courageous” one.

The reply was that they are NOT outright bans but that they “consider the context”. Sort of Mumsnet Russian Roulette - what fun!

Which means that I might, for the purposes of clarity, get away with citing them here. Then again, it might result in another strike and another stint on the Naughty Step, so I’d rather not risk it. (Sigh!)

Changing tack, have all those “Part 1, 2, 3, 4, 5” threads on AIBU really been deleted because MN decided the OP was a PBP??? After all that time??

(I did a Search for “Part 4” in Titles and nothing came up.)

I was puzzled by the strange smattering of apparently contradictory opinions and beliefs held by “Step-mum” but did not get to see that all unravel.

It wasn’t a pretty sight MoleSmokes . No idea if the first four still stand but someone saved them somewhere up thread here I think. Even if they were put up by a pbp, they drew a lot of traffic and contributors deserve long service medals!

Welcome back Mole

Here you go.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4153051-That-women-should-not-be-banned-from-Social-Media-for-asking-the-question-Thread-4

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4150786-AIBU-to-think-women-should-not-be-banned-from-Social-media-for-asking-the-question-Thread-3

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4148800-AIBU-to-think-women-should-not-be-banned-from-Social-media-for-asking-the-question-Thread-2

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4148030-AIBU-to-think-women-should-not-be-banned-from-Social-media-for-asking-the-question

CharlieParley
it pretends there is something shameful about people pre-transition. There isn't.

All married women who changed their surname to that of their husband had the things they achieved before marriage recorded in that name (degrees or professional qualifications or whatever else) and the ones after marriage in either their "maiden" name if they were using it professionally or their married name ... and I don't think any of them ever got offended if someone referred to a bit of their pre-marriage work as being by Miss Alice Bloggs. They might clarify it if it was in person -- say if a man was explaining to them all about Bloggs' fine theoretical paper on X....