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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Author Naomi Wolf condemns UK's 'moral panic' on trans issues

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stumbledin · 29/11/2020 22:55

Britain is in the grip of a “moral panic” about transgender issues, according to U.S. author Naomi Wolf, who said she was angry that trans women were being linked with predatory men having been a victim of rape herself. ...

“It’s always this mythology of a man dressed as a woman in ladies bathroom who’s going to rape a woman - which just doesn’t happen,” Wolf told the Thomson Reuters Foundation in a telephone interview, adding that women were far more at risk from men.

“Anyway there are already laws in place against you being molested by anyone in a bathroom.”

Wolf, 58, said every time she stood up for trans rights she was attacked online by “waves and waves of bots”.

And more like this at uk.reuters.com/article/britain-lgbt-history/interview-u-s-author-naomi-wolf-condemns-uks-moral-panic-on-trans-issues-idUSL8N2ID2IG

Just posting for information.

Not sure it is worth discussing, though needless to say she was an invited speaker at what should have been an event about Gay rights, but of course has been trans(formed) into a LGBTQ event.

Sigh.

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Tanith · 26/02/2021 12:02

Unfortunately, the TRAs have provided ample evidence to the contrary.

How are Jess Bradley, Lily Madigan, Aimee Challenor doing these days, since being exposed (literally, in Jess's case) and quietly dropped as trans cheerleaders?

dotoallasyouwouldbedoneby · 26/02/2021 12:04

@persistentwoman

Naomi Wolf - who wrote a 'book' that had to be pulped by the publisher because it was full of errors /untruths /mistakes. That Naomi Wolf? Grin
Yes that one. She used to be good though. 'The Beauty Myth' made a strong impression on me.
TuesdayinSeptember · 26/02/2021 12:04

Connie I don't want to share a hospital bay, refuge, rape crisis service, changing room, toilet etc with males. Are you saying I should have to, because to refuse would be transphobic? Really? At what point do my legal rights to single sex spaces stop?

gardenbird48 · 26/02/2021 12:12

I worry for Naomi Wolf - we really are back to ‘the Royal Family are Lizards territory!

Mimmy’s also behaving rather strangely- she’s retweeted a gc page with positive comments (Let Toys be Toys re Emma Willis’s son wearing pink) I’m so confused.

Has the madness eaten itself?

NecessaryScene1 · 26/02/2021 12:26

We're a loose-knit community of academics and scientists pledged to misleading Dr Naomi Wolf by performing pre-scripted bullshit scenarios in restaurants and within earshot. Once she repeats these in a public arena our job is done. We're crowd-funded, but would do it pro bono.

GrinGinWine

RedToothBrush · 26/02/2021 12:37

Its either a bad case of:

Person susceptible to bollocks falls for bollocks shocker

Or

Person who knows how to exploit people who are susceptible to bollocks for profit shocker.

Not madness.

NecessaryScene1 · 26/02/2021 12:38

Naomi Klein (No Logo/Shock Doctrine) on Twitter:

Your periodic reminder to keep your Naomis straight.

Grin

I havve had this problem in the past. Someone posted a helpful rhyme:

if the Naomi be Klein
you’re doing just fine
If the Naomi be Wolf
Oh, buddy. Ooooof.

SmokedDuck · 26/02/2021 12:50

What is she supposed to be saying with the time travel comment?

ErrolTheDragon · 26/02/2021 13:11

What's a 'nanopatticle'? A teeny weeny hamburger maybe?Confused

MavisGallavanting · 26/02/2021 13:18

You're mostly likely to get attacked by a man who knows you than you are a trans woman. I'd concentrate on getting irate about that first.

MavisGallavanting · 26/02/2021 13:18

*more likely

PotholeParadies · 26/02/2021 13:23

I don't understand why Naomi Wolf still has Outrages as her twitter banner.

Why not go the full hog and have a pinned tweet linking to the clip from that excruciating interview where Dr Matthew Sweet informed her of her mistake?

TuesdayinSeptember · 26/02/2021 13:26

@MavisGallavanting

You're mostly likely to get attacked by a man who knows you than you are a trans woman. I'd concentrate on getting irate about that first.
Are we not allowed to be 'irate' about more than one thing?

I'll ask again. If a woman does not want to share a single sex space with a male, are you saying she should have to?

Sophoclesthefox · 26/02/2021 13:37

There, there Naomi You go and have a nice lie down now. You’re overtired and being silly.

I’m still cringing about peaceful Belfast in the 70s Grin hahahahahahahahaha

Sophoclesthefox · 26/02/2021 13:39

This is a thread bounced from November, tuesday, that poster probably isn’t here now. You could tag them if you’re really looking for an answer? I didn’t realise it was an old one until I saw that I’d already been on upthread, being catty about Naomi Grin

Sophoclesthefox · 26/02/2021 13:40

Oh sorry, I am talking crap, please ignore me, I hadn’t refreshed.

I’ll let myself out.

ErrolTheDragon · 26/02/2021 13:45

Maybe it's contagious, Sophocles?Grin

PotholeParadies · 26/02/2021 13:48

@MavisGallavanting

You're mostly likely to get attacked by a man who knows you than you are a trans woman. I'd concentrate on getting irate about that first.
You're more likely to get attacked by a transwoman than you are to develop time travel powers as a result of a vaccine. I think Naomi should concentrate on getting angry about that first.
Harriedharriet · 26/02/2021 13:49

@OvaHere

Bots are a useful cover when you don't want to admit real people disagree with you.

I've replied to Naomi numerous times on twitter. Definitely a real person.

fantastic name!! hahahahaha
Sophoclesthefox · 26/02/2021 13:57

@ErrolTheDragon

Maybe it's contagious, Sophocles?Grin
I’m just checking myself for chips Shock

Maybe it was my vag. She’s been in weird mood all week.

ErrolTheDragon · 26/02/2021 14:02

Chips to go with the nanopatticles?

RoyalCorgi · 26/02/2021 14:28

You're more likely to get attacked by a transwoman than you are to develop time travel powers as a result of a vaccine.

Bigot!

cheeseismydownfall · 26/02/2021 14:49

Dear Naomi,

Safeguarding.

The End.

cheeseismydownfall · 26/02/2021 14:52

@RedToothBrush

Its either a bad case of:

Person susceptible to bollocks falls for bollocks shocker

Or

Person who knows how to exploit people who are susceptible to bollocks for profit shocker.

Not madness.

Grin
merrymouse · 26/02/2021 14:56

@MavisGallavanting

You're mostly likely to get attacked by a man who knows you than you are a trans woman. I'd concentrate on getting irate about that first.
The potential need to flee from a 'known' man is why women are concerned about access to mixed sex refuges, and many traumatised women want space that simply doesn't allow men.

Meanwhile, define 'trans woman' and explain who is excluded from the term.

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