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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

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InTheShadowOfTheMushroomCloud · 24/10/2020 13:06

I have no words. This has upset me so much...

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Aesopfable · 28/10/2020 08:39

The tweet was in reference to surrogacy as part of BLAW. That’s the context we should be looking at it and reading it in.

If that is the context in which it should be read then it emphasis the need to ban surrogacy and the insidious dehumanisation of women by surrogacy. It certainly doesn’t make it better.

KnightsofColumbusThatHurt · 28/10/2020 08:40

I am absolutely stunned by Freddy McConnell's completely hypocrisy and self-centredness on this issue. So only Freddy is allowed to think that words matter and care about how Freddy is referred to, even when it is a complete objective falsehood? Imagine the lack of awareness you must have to actually go to court to be recognised as 'Father' when you have given birth to the child, and then be shocked and surprised that other people are upset because how they are referred to matters to them too.

Aesopfable · 28/10/2020 08:40

DocMarteens Flowers

KnightsofColumbusThatHurt · 28/10/2020 08:49

And the whole 'pipe down ladies, the word mother still exists you know' crap I have seen on Twitter (including from Freddy).

If it exists, what is wrong with fucking using it then?

FairFridaythe13th · 28/10/2020 09:00

Only certain prescribes petiole may be permitted. A certain pop star who recently said they wanted to be a mummy by 35 perhaps. Maybe they give out certificates or licenses for the word now.

RosieTheHat · 28/10/2020 09:04

I lost my first daughter at six weeks due to SIDS. Afterwards, I was struggling to identify myself. I badly wanted to be a Mother, but as my baby was gone, how could I call myself one. This had such deep and profound effect on me.
After a lot of counselling, I eventually realised that I was still a Mother and nothing could take that away from me.
Had I read this bullshit though, how would that have impacted my mental health?
This utter nonsense has to stop - women, mothers are valid - stop trying to erase us.

Sexnotgender · 28/10/2020 09:20

Sending all the love in the world to the mothers on this thread who have lost children Flowers I can’t imagine your pain.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 28/10/2020 12:51

I got more-or-less used to it: of my eight pregnancies, not counting almost-certain very early miscarriages I wouldn't have known about for sure before reliable testing in the second month, I carried three to term and was immeasurably glad for their living. The other five I tried hard not to let myself grieve too much about, because I had to go on with my life somehow and you can't be crying all the time.

If some damn man had tried to insinuate shortly after their deaths that they were not my children and that I was not their mother, though, I would probably have gone berserk and done him bodily harm.

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