Tampax getting ratioed

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@doadeer

Excuse my ignorance but as a transman... Would you not wish to take pills to stop your period? I hate periods but I accept they are part of my capacity to have children. If this wasn't on the table for me I would take suppressants.

I once read somewhere that roughly fifty percent of FtM transitioners stop having periods when they go on testosterone. Not sure of the exact percentage but it was fairly high. So not all trans men menstruate, and since hysterectomy is recommended after six (or so) years on testosterone, it is likely that those who menstruate are less than half of all trans men of the relevant age category.

I have a feeling that some of the project of "erase all words meaning biologically female" is pushed by non-binary persons with female bodies, but I have nothing to base that on except what I have seen on Twitter.

I have a feeling that some of the project of "erase all words meaning biologically female" is pushed by non-binary persons with female bodies, but I have nothing to base that on except what I have seen on Twitter.

I suspect it is driven by a small but vocal subset of male bodied people who cannot bear the thought of "woman" being mentioned in the same context as "female specific biology."

I recommend reading the "non transwomen" thread, especially the last few pages where the mask slips entirely and the "being a woman is glitter sparkles and pillow fights in the girls dorm" poster admits to not believing female oppression is a thing, and of being jealous of women's naturally emotional and submissive nature.

This whole queer theory assault on women's right to a language of our own in which we can name ourselves and our experiences is driven by male jealousy. Yes, there are women who are cheerleading for it and dick pandering, but the original impetus comes from the dick owners themselves.

who cannot bear the thought of "woman" being mentioned in the same context as "female specific biology."

That's the thing isn't it? The word woman has been mostly removed from topics where it can only apply to women.

They are quite happy with woman/women where it is used in a context a transwoman can enter and gain validation from. E.g. women's centres, sports, prisons, tech groups, book lists, all women's shortlists, IWD etc.

All those things are separated by biological sex but it's not intrinsic to the language. So woman can be kept and they will claim it and thus be validated as a woman.

In areas of biology where woman cannot be claimed for validation. the word woman must go!

So, breast feeding, giving birth, having a smear test, cervical cancer, periods. All of these which are things only women do, or only happen to women, well, we're not allowed the word woman there.

Blimey, I had wondered why organisations who support women had fallen for this, as it's so obvious they are the ones who should be using the word woman.

I have realised the answer, these are the organisations that will have been targeted the most, because these are the ones that trigger the narcissistic rage, because woman used in this context is something a man can never lay claim to.

Of course, they won't have used rage to do it, but hurt feelings, there's nothing in the world more persuasive than a man's hurt feelings.

Phew, I am probably a bit slow, but that has really clarified the issue in my mind!

The Triggernometry guys are much more clued up about this issue now. Great response.

I'd like to see the Triggers re-interview PP, or interview another articulate GC woman.

It would be interesting to see whether their interview style has changed.

I have realised the answer, these are the organisations that will have been targeted the most, because these are the ones that trigger the narcissistic rage, because woman used in this context is something a man can never lay claim to.

Yes, precisely.

I have a feeling that some of the project of "erase all words meaning biologically female" is pushed by non-binary persons with female bodies, but I have nothing to base that on except what I have seen on Twitter.

I agree. But I think the whole project is mainly for the benefit of MTF trans people.

Or are we just going back to ye olde days when ‘man’ was just the default for all humans. But now it’s ‘person’ (but just for women).

I just won’t play this game.

Exactly. The word woman must cease to be based on biology, and only be based on something which can be appropriated.

agree. But I think the whole project is mainly for the benefit of MTF trans people.

That is very likely. I was once told that many trans women are active in women's reproductive rights organisations. That was several years ago.

@FairFridaythe13th

Or are we just going back to ye olde days when ‘man’ was just the default for all humans. But now it’s ‘person’ (but just for women).

I just won’t play this game.

This is exactly what is happening and it is now entering quite mainstream organisations so that the National Geographic recently published an article on the impact of covid-19 on pregnant people. (It is possible to send a letter to their editor, by the way ([email protected]).

@vivariumvivariumsvivaria

I'd like to see the Triggers re-interview PP, or interview another articulate GC woman.

It would be interesting to see whether their interview style has changed.

@vivariumvivariumsvivaria

Poise Parker interviewed them earlier this year:

I cancelled my national geo sub (after almost 20 years) when they started with this crap

Exactly. The word woman must cease to be based on biology, and only be based on something which can be appropriated

YY.

@nepeta

agree. But I think the whole project is mainly for the benefit of MTF trans people.

That is very likely. I was once told that many trans women are active in women's reproductive rights organisations. That was several years ago.

From the thread on the We're Still Here conference in 2018:

"James Morton gave some insight into tactics the TRAs will probably start using in England and Wales as they were successful in Scotland.

He said the TRAs need to build allies in mainstream women and children’s organisations so it looks like they care about them."

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3398737-We-re-Still-Here-Conference-8th-September-A-report-from-the-inside

Sorry, forgot this bit:

"JM’s campaigning tips were to gain trust in the local community- and to approach moderate feminists, “correct misconceptions and forgive any ignorance they may have displayed”. They want to gain trust and make themselves likeable.

Apparently small acts like helping to campaign about period poverty or retweeting the local branch of Women’s Aid will make a difference and result in some reciprocation. They want to make it look like they care about Women's issues so they don’t appear threatening."

SunsetScreech, interesting. I got the impression that the particular activism in repro movement was largely aimed at getting clinics to call women 'people' because of inclusiveness.

I get the impression that it’s just an excuse of misogynists to attack women under the guise of ‘humanity’. ‘Allies’ will be remembered...

Apparently small acts like helping to campaign about period poverty or retweeting the local branch of Women’s Aid will make a difference and result in some reciprocation. They want to make it look like they care about Women's issues so they don’t appear threatening."

So there is a recognition of what 'women's issues' are, and a concerted attempt to reframe them as 'menstruators' isssues' and 'uterus havers' issues'.

Fabulous.

Excellent point, Testing

"They are quite happy with woman/women where it is used in a context a transwoman can enter and gain validation from. E.g. women's centres, sports, prisons, tech groups, book lists, all women's shortlists, IWD etc.

All those things are separated by biological sex but it's not intrinsic to the language. So woman can be kept and they will claim it and thus be validated as a woman.

In areas of biology where woman cannot be claimed for validation. the word woman must go!"

Has anyone heard back from tampax yet?

Yeah imagine tampax ads using a guy on the telly.

Bet they wouldn’t dare. They only do this crap on twitter as most of the population is not on twitter

The only comments I ever had from guys was from the shove it up ad

Even then they didn’t really want to explore it 😂

The fear was they might have to actually listen to what it wa# like to have a period