Tampax getting ratioed

[Awning10]

twitter.com/Tampax/status/1305952342504767491

Reminds of that comment by a TRA re spaces, the one that ended “enjoy your erasure”

@KnightsofColumbusThatHurt

Given that this was never in dispute (menopause not being a recent discovery) it’s difficult to conclude otherwise.

Well yes. Have menopausal women, women with a Mirena coil, pregnant women etc ever complained before about 'feeling excluded' from adverts talking about 'women's periods'? Of course not, this seems to be a new phenomenon. I have certainly never felt 'excluded'.

So the 'women' they are talking about when the educate us about the fact that 'some women don't have periods' must be... Men.

Nope. It's human shielding, using various subset groups of women to do it. Same as the racist and homophobic attempts to co-opt black and lesbian women as atypical women. I really don't know if that's revealing their own hideously unsavoury assumptions, or simply because they're so saturated in grievance thinking that they assume a land-grab like that boosts their own argument's standing. The manipulative sleight of hand, in seeking to imply male people are just one sort of female subset, by faux sympathy and forced teaming with whichever group of women they think serves their argument best... it's so utterly transparent.

I'm so sick of the woman hatred they so freely unleash. And it's all so unnecessary, too. I think most women would gladly fight for parallel provision for trans people - however they identify - in seeking safety from angry, misogynist, homophobic men. It's the ones who are those angry, misogynist and homophobic males who scare us, and with bloody good reason, and the best way of telling them apart is seeing which are screaming most loudly for access to our spaces, and which show most contempt, and most entitlement, when we say 'no'. Because the decent ones want their own provision; they recognise that sex and gender, body and mind, are different things, and that we are human beings too.

None of the decent men, or decent transwomen, whom I know would dream of invading women's spaces uninvited.

Hellfire, I have been asked by a transwoman if I was ok with her using the women's section of a communal sauna at the same time as me -- which of course I was because she was female enough to bloody well ask and not just assume I was ok with it. She may be a TRA (which I am fairly sure in some respects she is) but she has the common good sense and manners to consider the feelings of members of the sex she wants to be regarded as being. And if there had been a neutral area of that sauna I am sure she would have used that instead.

OK I have to ask where do males bleed from?

A multitude of places. None needing a tampon though.

Yes, where’s the natty little diagram showing them how to use them.

Excuse my ignorance but as a transman... Would you not wish to take pills to stop your period? I hate periods but I accept they are part of my capacity to have children. If this wasn't on the table for me I would take suppressants.

Procter & Gamble brands

#GoWokeGoBroke

Even disregarding any offense caused by the Fact: blahblahgendequeerblahblsh stuff it's all so incoherent. Nothing can be communicated clearly and concisely by this tosh as evidenced by everyone who has a go at it. Sooner or later the incoherence is going to bring it to an end. You can just imagine the discussion about bad reactions to PR when the numpties try to explain internally at Tampax what they meant about all people bleeding and the expensive brand management people holding their heads in their hands.

They might as well be advertising Band Aid.

@doadeer

Excuse my ignorance but as a transman... Would you not wish to take pills to stop your period? I hate periods but I accept they are part of my capacity to have children. If this wasn't on the table for me I would take suppressants.

This post will probably get deleted but I also think the same about a trans man who gets pregnant. How can they go through pregnancy and birth when they have gender dysphoria as it's such a profoundly female experience?

It's in the Daily Mail now:

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8877425/Tampax-slammed-tweet-celebrating-diversity-people-bleed-amid-calls-boycott.html

@doadeer

Excuse my ignorance but as a transman... Would you not wish to take pills to stop your period? I hate periods but I accept they are part of my capacity to have children. If this wasn't on the table for me I would take suppressants.

It's not always that simple. Breakthrough bleeding can be an absolute bugger for some women who don't take breaks, and not all women can use hormonal contraception, either. Some medical conditions are contraindications and other women suffer really serious depression on them.

When I was on the shot, I bled pretty much solidly for months, albeit lightly, which is the exact opposite of what is meant to happen, and as it lasts for those months there was nothing anyone could do until it wore off. (Given I was only on it because I had horrible periods, that was fun.)

Ideally, yes I'd have loved to do that. Breastfeeding was amazing because I didn't have a period for the best part of a year.

It's in the Dailymail now. Although the article does include this gem of a line * 'being carried out by 'T🤢RFs' - trans-exclusionary radical feminists*.

I wish journalists would follow it up with which is an abusive term used to slur women who do not agree with gender ideology.

Wellbehaved

Yes of course you're right. I was thinking of a particular tablet (nothing to do with contraceptive) I would take if I had a period at an inopportune moment like on holiday, norathisterine (sp?) but of course that's not feisable long term.

Oooh a year off that's lovely! I was one of those freakishly unlucky types who breastfed but it came back at 7 weeks 🙄

Menstrual cups are amazing. They feel cleaner, fresher and I'm almost sure my period pain has been improved by using these.

I'll never go back to disposable products again.

As for this latest push to 'inclusivity', it's ironic given those who are being excluded are the vastly overwhelming majority of their customers. It's now come to the stage where 'woman' is viewed as some kind of filthy, unutterable word, and I find that profoundly offensive. Not to mention it's difficult to see how that word could be so intensely triggering if bleeding out of your vag and enduring the mess and pain associated with that exclusively female function, isn't.

@justasking111

OK I have to ask where do males bleed from?

Trans men do (as in biologically female.) Not trans women Why is this so hard to understand?

So say women and transmen. Don’t pretend that anyone can have a period or that the significance of not having a period is the same for men and women.

How is that so difficult to understand?

The language used by tampax just creates stigma and taboo around the word ‘woman’ and makes it difficult to talk coherently about periods.

It’s understandable that people who suffer from dysphoria feel more comfortable using language that distances them from their biological sex, but that language is not generally helpful to women who just need to use language honestly and clearly.

When I think about how language is evolving into 'men' and 'bleeders/ovary-havers/vulva-owners/individualswithacervix' I keep thinking of how the marriage vows might change. "John Smith, will you have this uterus-bearer as your wedded wife."

That is stupid. But it is interesting how 'woman' has been turned into an abstract identity with no relationship to one's biological body while 'man' is still linked to the male body. This difference is such a clear example of sexism, yet the progressives are erasing our ability to even talk about sexism, what with it being sex-based.

I said this on another thread, but when you think about it, the only time it is actually acceptable to use the word 'women' now, is when you are saying 'trans women are women'.

At all other times it's 'cervix havers, menstruators, non-transwomen' etc.

So the only time you can actually use the word woman.... Is when you are describing males.

@KnightsofColumbusThatHurt

I said this on another thread, but when you think about it, the only time it is actually acceptable to use the word 'women' now, is when you are saying 'trans women are women'.

At all other times it's 'cervix havers, menstruators, non-transwomen' etc.

So the only time you can actually use the word woman.... Is when you are describing males.

This is so true.

@KnightsofColumbusThatHurt

I said this on another thread, but when you think about it, the only time it is actually acceptable to use the word 'women' now, is when you are saying 'trans women are women'.

At all other times it's 'cervix havers, menstruators, non-transwomen' etc.

So the only time you can actually use the word woman.... Is when you are describing males.

'Woman' is acceptable as long as it does not refer to anything having to do with being biologically female. Fields where the use of the word is acceptable are fashions, makeup, girly pink stuff with sparkles. Fields where the use of the word is not acceptable are giving birth, needing abortions, suffering from female diseases, menopause.

So 'woman' is now a bundle of interests or personality traits among the woke. Having particular interests or personality traits doesn't seem to call for any careful watching over the rights of that group, so the MRAs will be pleased and not just the trans activists.

That's interesting. They've deleted the tweet, but it seems to stem from here.

Inclusion is as well as, Tampax. Absolutely, include people who identify as transmen and non-binary. Just stop erasing women. Add, don't subtract. How is this hard to fathom?

Ah yes: because Stonewall are advising them, and the decoupling of biology and women in all discourse is a core part of the aim. Erase that, and you can no longer define women accurately. We stop being a sisterhood at all - and no individual can achieve what a collective can.

That's interesting. They've deleted the tweet,

Nope. It's still there.

wellbehavedwomen

Their reply to that is just 🙄 ''Our campaign is meant for all people with periods, not just those who identify as women''.

So they're basically saying: Our campaign is meant for all people with periods, not just biological men. Because the only people who identify as women are biological men. Who don't have periods.

Muppets.

Whaat is interesting is that TV ads and photo ads for these products always show very femme women - I have yet to see an ad for tampons featuring someone with a beard. They know that people won't buy the gaslighting if done so directly. in fact I wished they had more diversity in the kind of women they depict in ads.