Langcleg is vindicated

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Mumsnet thought that Langcleg was wrong to state safeguarding regarding children who thought they were trans. When langcleg argued for our kids Mumsnet didn’t like it. Mumsnet caved to the men. Instead of champion safeguarding, Mumsnet got rid of an expertise on this. Well, Langcleg was right and the Tavistock judicial review shows this.
Langcleg kept me sane in a world where others tried to gaslight me for my refusal to believe that my child was born in the wrong body.
Shame on you Mumsnet for cancelling the very people who help us parents. The voice of sanity. More importantly the voice of support. Do you really think langcleg did this for her own gain? No. She did this to protect us all. Gonna report this post now to bring it to the attention of the monitors.
Langcleg if you are still reading these posts I thank you so much for you help. I wish you were here now to comment on the Tavistock review and feel vindicated.

I’m still hoping @Moonbasealpha will explain why correctly describing things is bad

We can live in hope innit?

Its good to be optimistic i think bernard

Or delusional 🤔

Hopeful, optimistic or delusional....cant remember which one now

Radar
Snuck

Loving the atomic fondue forks. Let's colour code our forks so we don't get any one else's cos germs....but simultaneously dip a used fork in a shared pot.

Thankfully fondues are off now. Perhaps this is the silver lining in the Covid cloud, or maybe it's just not the seventies anymore.

@RufustheSniggeringReindeer

Snuck that one in under the radar didn’t you! Well done

I dont see how any post can be ‘snuck under the radar’

It wasn't caught by Tarquin's algorithm?

I’m pretty sure I’m not delusional Rufus

Surely the things that happen to me would be more interesting if they were delusions? Life is currently like the worst Matrix simulation ever

I’m going’optimistic’

After all if @Moonbasealpha is so confident in their views that they’re prepared to seek out and hector people who don’t agree with them, they’re totally going to be all over explaining why they’re right

they’re prepared to seek out and hector people who don’t agree with them,

Will you stop with that please Berni. When you disagree with someone and discuss with them it’s disagreeing and discussing. But when I do it according to you it’s ‘hectoring’. You can bugger off with that.

explain why you're so disdainful of referring to transowmen with correct pronouns then moony

cos if you're not engaging in the conversation then you're just talking AT people > hectoring innit?

@BernardBlackMissesLangCleg

I’m still hoping *@Moonbasealpha* will explain why correctly describing things is bad

We can live in hope innit?

If a person has transitioned and you call them by a pronoun they don’t wish to be called, that’s generally not considered the correct pronoun.

It’s considered to be incorrect and harassing.

It is not incorrect or harassing in cases where, for instance, you need a vagina to benefit from a vaginal microbiome intervention. We really do need clear language in these discussions, not muddled thinking.

Or you end up explaining to an enthusiastic manbaby how a product meant for vaginas should in no way be marketed for "anyone who identifies as a woman".

And in case anyone thinks I am on the wrong thread-- I am not. Just explaining why I agree that correctly explaining things is good.

I also think that pronouns are rohypnol. So there's that.

@BernardBlackMissesLangCleg

I’m pretty sure I’m not delusional Rufus

Surely the things that happen to me would be more interesting if they were delusions? Life is currently like the worst Matrix simulation ever

I’m going’optimistic’

After all if @Moonbasealpha is so confident in their views that they’re prepared to seek out and hector people who don’t agree with them, they’re totally going to be all over explaining why they’re right

Look at you

Both optimism AND patience paying off

I’m well impressed

If a person has transitioned

what have they transitioned from and to?

that’s generally not considered the correct pronoun

it's not you know. the vast majority of the population use male pronouns for men and female pronouns for women.

It’s considered to be incorrect and harassing

by who?

why would it mean others can't use standard language when discussing them?

Both optimism AND patience paying off

well yeah rufus. i mean the answer seems to be 'unspecified people will think you're mean if you don't play ball'. i don't find that particularly compelling. but i'm hoping for clarification

If a person has transitioned and you call them by a pronoun they don’t wish to be called, that’s generally not considered the correct pronoun.

That's a shame. But no male person is getting "she" out of me. I don't "misgender" though, I simply find a way around using pronouns for them.

Or I use "they". So non binary people have an advantage there.

@BernardBlackMissesLangCleg

Both optimism AND patience paying off

well yeah rufus. i mean the answer seems to be 'unspecified people will think you're mean if you don't play ball'. i don't find that particularly compelling. but i'm hoping for clarification

Mate...

I meant optimistic to get an answer....not that it would be a good answer 😀

Thats a step too far optimism wise for me