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Langcleg is vindicated

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Namechangex5 · 08/10/2020 23:46

Mumsnet thought that Langcleg was wrong to state safeguarding regarding children who thought they were trans. When langcleg argued for our kids Mumsnet didn’t like it. Mumsnet caved to the men. Instead of champion safeguarding, Mumsnet got rid of an expertise on this. Well, Langcleg was right and the Tavistock judicial review shows this.
Langcleg kept me sane in a world where others tried to gaslight me for my refusal to believe that my child was born in the wrong body.
Shame on you Mumsnet for cancelling the very people who help us parents. The voice of sanity. More importantly the voice of support. Do you really think langcleg did this for her own gain? No. She did this to protect us all. Gonna report this post now to bring it to the attention of the monitors.
Langcleg if you are still reading these posts I thank you so much for you help. I wish you were here now to comment on the Tavistock review and feel vindicated.

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Harmarsuperstar · 09/10/2020 06:01

I was here at the time, under a different name or lurking, I can't remember which.
From memory, I think LC was banned due to a misunderstanding by one of the moderators?

Vermeil · 09/10/2020 07:42

Simples

Nothing gives a comment weight and gravitas like quoting a puppet meerkat from an annoying insurance advert.

eleventylevennamechanges · 09/10/2020 07:47

There is a very clear account of what happened on the feminism section of another site.
There is misunderstanding and deliberate misunderstanding.
Lang was targeted because she was raising a very important red flag.

Pertella · 09/10/2020 07:54

@Harmarsuperstar

I was here at the time, under a different name or lurking, I can't remember which. From memory, I think LC was banned due to a misunderstanding by one of the moderators?
Yep. LC pointed out that their were people external to these boards targeting and reporting certain pp to get posts deleted and them banned.

LC pointed out the irony in MN running a campaign to make women aware of coercive control and how to recognise it whilst allowing external monitors to control what is posted.

A particular moderator misunderstood what LC said and banned her for accusing the MODS of coercive control. Even though their misunderstanding was pointed out they refused to accept what she was saying.

As it turn out she was right. And yet...

eleventylevennamechanges · 09/10/2020 07:57

Pertella has bravely explained it better than me.

IheartJKR · 09/10/2020 07:57

Women continue to be silenced.

Anyfucker was allowed back...

Langclegs posts helped me with my research. I wish I knew her in real life.✊

Pertella · 09/10/2020 07:58

@DixieFlatline

Take no notice of people who get some strange satisfaction from arguing black is white.
Strange how there seems to be a conveyer belt of posters with similar poster style who only turn up to goad, prod, deflect and merail.

Wonder when we'll get to the bit where they moan about this board but yet can't keep away 🥱

Quaagars · 09/10/2020 08:08

Who said I wasn't here at the time?

RufustheSniggeringReindeer · 09/10/2020 08:11

Yes i miss lang as well

Like some others who have been banned or suspended she was a font of information

EwwSprouts · 09/10/2020 08:27

Lang was an informed, insightful and vocal woman. Who could possibly have a problem with that? Hmm

Skyliner001 · 09/10/2020 08:29

@Namechangex5

She did not bully anyone. If you think that, it is possibly because your argument wasn’t strong enough and she showed you up.
😂😂
Skyliner001 · 09/10/2020 08:29

@Vermeil

Simples

Nothing gives a comment weight and gravitas like quoting a puppet meerkat from an annoying insurance advert.

This 😂
Whatisthisfuckery · 09/10/2020 08:29

I think we need to see some evidence of this bullying Lang was supposed to have been doing, because I never saw even a hint of it. Robust disagreement, yes, but robust disagreement is not bullying, and seeing as she has been vindicated about both her concerns about safeguarding and the fact that certain individuals are crawling MN for posters and key words to target, safeguarding being one of them, I think we definitely need receipts to show this alleged bullying.

The Weetabix and banana was indeed a horror though, but certain posters have even managed to put me off crisp butties in the past, so...

HumphreyCobblers · 09/10/2020 08:32

I wish she could be invited back. Would be great.

Quaagars · 09/10/2020 08:36

I never saw even a hint of it
Lucky you then, never being on the receiving end.
"Robust disagreement?" Nice minimising job there.

RufustheSniggeringReindeer · 09/10/2020 08:41

but certain posters have even managed to put me off crisp butties in the past, so...

Noooooo

Really? Oh i am so sorry

Whatisthisfuckery · 09/10/2020 08:41

I’m sure in that case Quaagars that you will have some examples of this bullying to prove your point? Have you?

DancelikeEmmaGoldman · 09/10/2020 08:44

They need to realise they’re only here because mumsnet allows them to be.

True. But it’s a symbiotic relationship. Mumsnet is the successful business it is, because users freely contribute content. It’s that user-base which attracts advertisers and researchers. And FWR is one of the busiest boards on MN.

Pertella · 09/10/2020 08:44

Does slagging someone off when they don't have the right to respond come under the bullying umbrella?

Asking for a friend...

Cailleach1 · 09/10/2020 08:48

This board has still been a place where consciousness has been raised on what is happening to directly damage and weaken safeguarding of children.

In 2024, I remember reading the stuff on Paedophile Information Exchange (PIE) and how they piggybacked on an organisation called the National Council for Civil Liberties ) NCCL. Again, currently, I think many more organisations are not vigilant and are silent on child safeguarding as they can't or don't care enough to analyse properly what is 'progressive' with what is dodgy.

I remember reading correspondence from the era that this so called 'progressive' org sheltered the Paedophile Information Exchange under their umbrella and in doing so could be perceived to be giving it their imprimatur or stamp of approval. If not going that far, they certainly didn't throw them out.
Even then there were letters and warnings from people who weren't blinded by the fashionable aspect and saw this course for what it was; as an avenue for child endangerment and exploitation.

Having been aware about what happened before, I do think some political parties and politicians are complicit by their silence and refusal to even look beyond spin. Despite the issues being raised. They don't get excused in my book. Even schools and the police, for goodness sakes. Children's charities, too. It is more than not being aware. I perceive it as unwillingness to look at it straight on.

A 1970s campaign to lower the age of consent has returned to haunt Harriet Harman, Patricia Hewitt and Jack Dromey. But in such a liberal climate, it wasn't hard for a small, determined group to exploit a commitment to free speech

www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/mar/02/how-paedophiles-infiltrated-the-left-harriet-harman-patricia-hewitt

Joisanofthedales · 09/10/2020 08:49

LC was passionate and posted with clarity and expertise.
I feel very sad for those who can't deal with posters like LC, Datum, Michelle at al.
For me they are the beating heart of the board.

Cailleach1 · 09/10/2020 08:49

2024? 2014.

JaneR0chester · 09/10/2020 08:54

I miss LangCleg. I miss that she spoke up for children and women. I miss her safeguarding expertise.

Disagreement is not necessarily confrontation or bullying (as I try to teach my snowflake teens Confused). From her posts, I don't believe Lang ever bullied anyone.

Whatisthisfuckery · 09/10/2020 08:55

It’s fine, I’m sure Quaagars is going through their library of screenshots to find an example of Lang’s bullying as we speak. I’m sure they’ll be back very soon to back up their assertions.

DeaconBoo · 09/10/2020 08:55

Quaagars has a long history of derailing threads with sniping but rarely offers any concrete opinions or discussion points because they are often shown to be logically muddled, without evidence, or they throw a tantrum saying that gentle suggestions to read up on certain topics they have shown to misunderstand is bullying or "patronising".

I must emphasise that this is just my opinion, lol, it's a free country.

Lang has never bullied anyone in any posts I've seen, and I've seen a lot! Even you, Quaagars... unless she told you to "go well"?