Times: Chemist sells hormones for kids online

[Malahaha]

I don't think this is a share token. Still haven't mastered the art.

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/chemist-sells-hormones-for-trans-children-online-cbgtxlbdr?fbclid=IwAR0ocQdGvaFBfucRwkSlnanlQlhiOi6eH8X3uVprlH7fj8Y-WOSCdoXeOSY

The Times are doing a great job covering this.

Clear Chemist in Liverpool can deliver the drugs thanks to a loophole allowing the dispensing of prescriptions from Switzerland or a European Economic Area country. The prescriptions are from GenderGP, a private company founded by Helen Webberley, who was fined in 2018 for running an unlicensed transgender clinic from her home in south Wales. She was suspended by the General Medical Council.

Sharetoken

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/chemist-sells-hormones-for-trans-children-online-cbgtxlbdr?shareToken=5aa9e70ab22416f1edbe2b630cb5dd91

Nice, clear, factual article.

Wriggle away, Wobberly. You will be stopped.

So these are prescription drugs? That anyone can buy online, ‘no questions’?

On a day that we see 4 students dead after taking drunks at uni and over a dozen school children taken to hospital after eating ‘sweets’ (cannabis) how on earth can this be ok?

So Wobberly has wriggled out of being banned by the General Medical Council to prescribe puberty blockers to children using her base in Spain and UK Chemists.

Time to BAN UK chemists handing out drugs to children in non UK issued prescriptions, especially by banned Doctors

Hey maybe Brexit will be good for one thing then?

The comments are heartening.

So, this woman has been suspended by the GMC a few years ago but is still allowed to practice abroad?

Eh?

How come the GMC hasn't just struck her off on account of being a danger and acting beyond her scope of practice?

So these are prescription drugs? That anyone can buy online, ‘no questions’?

They are ordered through gender gp, who provide on line consultations.

According to their website the only consultation that is mandatory is 'information gathering', both counselling and follow up consultations are optional.
www.gendergp.com/fees/#fees-tabs|2

You have to jump through more hoops to adopt a dog from the rspca.

I just posted this on the other thread.

Previous threads about the Webberleys. Clear Chemist named Helen Webberley as the doctor in charge of prescribing even after her suspension (see screenshots on the first link):

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/a3598778-Dr-Helen-and-Dr-Mike-Webberley-matters-of-public-record?msgid=87460343#87460343

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3658065-Isnt-Helen-Webberley-still-prevented-from-providing-services-in-UK

I made a complaint to the regulator about Clear Chemist at the time, but heard nothing back. It seems you have to be a journalist with a national newspaper in order for them to actually take any notice of complaints and concerns.

You surely can’t make a diagnosis over the phone? Good lord above, whatever happened to professional ethics?

I read this and think of Mr Scumsnet's suggestion that MNers should stop talking about politics and stick to discussing parenting. I don't know about you, but I think we're bang on topic here.

Mermaids retweeted Gender GP last month. What is their association now? HW used to be on Mermaids’ page.

"Trans friendly make up tips" - what's that, now? Since when was make up is gendered?

I'm from the 80s. Makeup doth not make a man.

Makeup tips from a discredited GP? they could have linked to someone who does it professionally, eg John Maclean.

@ErrolTheDragon

Makeup tips from a discredited GP? they could have linked to someone who does it professionally, eg John Maclean.

Oh come on Errol, haven't we all taken make up tips from doctors who have been suspended by the GMC.

Alternatively this was a pretty obvious attempt by Mermaids to signpost vulnerable people to gender gp.

There needs to be an enquiry.

Mermaids respond

twitter.com/fayekirklandgp/status/1313435869513166849?s=21

I see a lot of people protesting that GenderGP is filling a gap that the NHS waiting list creates - a 4 year WL in repeatedly mentioned.

That's a good point, no one should have to wait that long for care, it's not acceptable.

The wider issues are:

1. what has caused this massive spike in referrals?
2. why can't they recruit more staff for clinics?

It takes a long time to train a specialist medic, 10 years for a consultant. But, there must be plenty of HCPs who'd be "nearly there" with their skill set and could be tempted to specialise in the field. And yet, every GIC seems to have real problems creating a workforce.

What is it about working in this field which puts staff off?

twitter.com/i/status/1313480810364915712
twitter.com/i/status/1313481969603313665

Interview on Victoria Derbyshire as well on this subject. The above two Twitter links are part one and part two of interview. Sorry don't have I player link

I see a lot of people protesting that GenderGP is filling a gap that the NHS waiting list creates - a 4 year WL in repeatedly mentioned.

Isn't the main gap that needs filling the massive void in CAMHS?

problem: "gender identity" pseudoscience causes a 4 year WL of miserable children

solution: ?

The problem is - gender identity and “the trans child” are adult inventions. They are very lucrative. Not sure why Haddock is so keen

Alternatively this was a pretty obvious attempt by Mermaids to signpost vulnerable people to gender gp.

Yes without actually saying anything out loud

Don’t forget to write to your MP if you feel strongly about this. They make the law, many of them will have no idea what pressures kids with distress about gender stereotypes are under and what’s available online and how serious, permanent and devastating the effects of taking these off-label drugs can be.