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WarOnWomen · 2020-10-03T12:28:39+00:00

I've just seen this thread by Fair Play for Women regarding their stance on toilets. Maya F is also on the thread clarifying the issue. https://twitter.com/fairplaywomen/status/1312062467191734273?s=21 They are saying that everyone should be comfortable choosing the toilets they want to without being forced to share with opposite sex. Yup. Trans people should also not have to share with people designated at birth. Yup, also agree. Have a mix sex category for people who don't mind and trans people. Sure. They are saying these facilities already exist. Accessible toilets. This is where I feel lost and let down. These toilets are for disabled people. People worked hard to get these accessible toilets. I don't want my mum having to share these toilets with trans women, anymore than I want them in female spaces. It's just wrong. And don't disabled people have a say as part of the EA2010? Please tell me I have the wrong end of the stick.

334bu · 08/10/2020 14:38

So if female shelters are really mixed sex shelters and only men's shelters are single sex is that not against sex discrimination legislation?

RedDogsBeg · 08/10/2020 14:40

@334bu

So if female shelters are really mixed sex shelters and only men's shelters are single sex is that not against sex discrimination legislation?

and there is the proof that this is nothing more than a MRA agenda.

jj1968 · 08/10/2020 14:40

@334bu

Why are the men's shelters allowed to discriminate against some males surely that is discriminatory?

It may well be, I don't know how Canadian equality law works, but that doesn't mean it wouldn't happen. Homeless people don;t sue, there's lots of ways they get treated that might technically be legally dubious. I've certainly heard of trans women being denied access to male only hostels in the UK on the grounds it represented too much of a safety risk.

Datun · 08/10/2020 14:41

A violent man, using transgender ideology, sexually humiliates women in a homeless shelter, and publicly boasts about it. Women comment on it to warn other women and expose the situation.

Criticising it in a ludicrous attempt to undermine that this isn't exactly what women have been saying all along, is it one of the more bizarre things i've read. I mean, there's irrationality, and then there's a whole other level.

jj1968 · 08/10/2020 14:43

@334bu

So if female shelters are really mixed sex shelters and only men's shelters are single sex is that not against sex discrimination legislation?

Well somewhat famously not all women's shelters in Vancouver accept trans women so presumably the law accounts for that. And men's shelters may well accept trans men but not trans women.

Datun · 08/10/2020 14:44

jj1968

Datun
The man posted it himself.

And you all shared it. Which is a criminal offence under Canadian law and I think rightly so. I don't think just because someone posts an intimate picture on their personal social media account it should immediately become public property. I don't think that is a situation that is good for women, it's verging on illegal in the UK and is a crime in many other countries as well.

Haha! You're objecting to this on the (entirely invented by yourself) basis that what this man actually wanted was anonymity???

Oh lord! 🤣🤣🤣

Datun · 08/10/2020 14:46

As I said before jj1968 detests women,

Yes, telling women they are sexually humiliating a man on the basis that they are acknowledging his sexual humiliation of other women was a particularly risible example, I have to say.

RedDogsBeg · 08/10/2020 14:48

Well somewhat famously not all women's shelters in Vancouver accept trans women so presumably the law accounts for that. And men's shelters may well accept trans men but not trans women.

ONE, only ONE shelter in Vancouver remains single sex and have battled against the most vicious, concerted campaign by TRA's to do so. No doubt you support your fellow TRA's and MRA's in their relentless attacks on this shelter jj1968

Datun · 08/10/2020 14:48

i've always said it. Publicly exposing yourself to women and boasting about it on social media is often a sign that you want to get away with things under the radar.

jj1968 · 08/10/2020 14:48

@Datun

jj1968

Datun
The man posted it himself.

And you all shared it. Which is a criminal offence under Canadian law and I think rightly so. I don't think just because someone posts an intimate picture on their personal social media account it should immediately become public property. I don't think that is a situation that is good for women, it's verging on illegal in the UK and is a crime in many other countries as well.

Haha! You're objecting to this on the (entirely invented by yourself) basis that what this man actually wanted was anonymity???

Oh lord! 🤣🤣🤣

I personally wouldn't make any assumptions about what someone wanted when seeking to establish consent to publish an intimate sexual photo of someone online without their permission. I don't think making assumptions about consent is a very good idea, do you?

334bu · 08/10/2020 14:53

Was that the centre that had a dead rat pinned to its door to encourage them to allow males into a women's only rape crisis centre?

Whatwouldscullydo · 08/10/2020 14:53

Still nothing?

Still no comment on how fucked up Canada allowing this shit.

Do you think males should have the right to self identify into womens shelters?

Forget about piling sympathy on a violent male who has no regard safer the safety and needs of actual women. Are you like them? Or do you think women should have women only spaces and by wonen i mean those who don't have nor ever had a penis.

Actual women.

karenkanta · 08/10/2020 14:53

If you support sharing intimate sexual photographs online of a vulnerable homeless adult who may have a mental health condition as some kind of kangaroo court punishment based on a couple of vague tweets then I'm sorry, but I question your professionalism. Because I'm sure you know, if you did that as a worker, you would be immediately sacked for gross misconduct.

That's social media for you. Maybe this 23 year old so called vulnerable man should have thought about that before posting cock pictures up, which, as you know, spreads right across the world in a matter of minutes. I'm not one for sharing photos of other people myself, but it clearly had highlighted the fact that he shouldn't have been there in the first place. He highlighted that fact, all by himself. And the only part of it I am interested in is the fact that he's in a female space taking selfies of his cock, in public spaces designated for women.

RedDogsBeg · 08/10/2020 14:54

I don't think making assumptions about consent is a very good idea, do you?

You mean like you making assumptions that women and girls have consented and have no problems at all with sharing toilets, changing rooms, refuges, sports, prisons with TW's with fully intact male genitalia jj1968?

karenkanta · 08/10/2020 14:55

Was that the centre that had a dead rat pinned to its door to encourage them to allow males into a women's only rape crisis centre?

That's Vancouver rape relief. The harrassment they have received for keeping a woman's shelter for women only is really quite something.

jj1968 · 08/10/2020 14:57

@karenkanta

That's social media for you. Maybe this 23 year old so called vulnerable man should have thought about that before posting cock pictures up, which, as you know, spreads right across the world in a matter of minutes.

Asking for it was she. Dear me.

CaraDuneRedux · 08/10/2020 14:58

Well, this thread's nearly at an end (thank god). But it has been illuminating as we watch ever more convoluted attempts to take a situation where a disturbed and sexually predatory male voluntarily and of his own free will posts pics taken in the bathroom of a womens shelter of his own erect penis on his own social media feed and twist this so it's somehow all the fault of those nasty women for objecting to this behaviour and for pointing out that maybe it is not a good idea to allow unfettered access to women's shelters.

Welcome to the upside down!

RedDogsBeg · 08/10/2020 14:58

@334bu

Was that the centre that had a dead rat pinned to its door to encourage them to allow males into a women's only rape crisis centre?

That's the one, and they were dragged through the Courts for years by a TW/TRA in an attempt to force them to allow males, and more importantly this particular TW into their shelter. Cost the Shelter many thousands to defend the case, you know money that would have been far better spent on the vulnerable women who required their services, but that's TRA/MRA's for you their hatred of women knows no bounds.

Datun · 08/10/2020 15:01

I personally wouldn't make any assumptions about what someone wanted when seeking to establish consent to publish an intimate sexual photo of someone online without their permission. I don't think making assumptions about consent is a very good idea, do you?

Oh wait, is this the same as Sky News pursuing women throughout social media for not getting their consent to watch her take down Harrop?

334bu · 08/10/2020 15:04

Wonder why that person thought that abused women would welcome them as their counsellor?
Very narcissistic behaviour on that transwomen's behalf., validating their gender identity by exacerbating the trauma of female rape victims.

jj1968 · 08/10/2020 15:05

@Datun

I personally wouldn't make any assumptions about what someone wanted when seeking to establish consent to publish an intimate sexual photo of someone online without their permission. I don't think making assumptions about consent is a very good idea, do you?

Oh wait, is this the same as Sky News pursuing women throughout social media for not getting their consent to watch her take down Harrop?

No don't be silly. The laws on copyright violation, which I presume this was, are not the same as the laws on sharing sexual photographs of people, not least because the subject of a photo may not own the copyright, and copyright violation in most cases is treated as a civil rather than criminal offence..

karenkanta · 08/10/2020 15:05

Asking for it was she. Dear me.

Were the women in the shelter asking to see his cock as he wanders around half dressed deliberately? Were they asking for that? Women who have escaped domestic violence. From men?

Datun · 08/10/2020 15:07

Asking for it was she. Dear me.

Asking for what? He was certainly asking for approval, admiration, kudos. What do you think he was asking for?

You've made it abundantly evident to every woman reading this thread that you like nothing more than targeting them. The darvo and projection is bit amateur tho, way too obvious. You betray your rage.

You are merely the latest in a long line of TRA do this. It's predictable and tedious.

Irritating tho it is, the demo is always more effective than women just describing it.

So for that, at least, you've done a good job.

jj1968 · 08/10/2020 15:08

@karenkanta

Asking for it was she. Dear me.

Were the women in the shelter asking to see his cock as he wanders around half dressed deliberately? Were they asking for that? Women who have escaped domestic violence. From men?

Did they see anything? Got any proof of that or is it all wild speculation based on a couple of tweets. It is not illegal to possess a penis, I mean I'm not saying it shouldn't be, but it's not yet.

Datun · 08/10/2020 15:11

Oh, can I add that one?

That didn't happen.

And if it did, it wasn't that bad.

And if it was, that's not a big deal.

And if it is, that's not my fault.

And if it was, I didn't mean it.

And if I did...

You deserved it.

... or were temporarily struck with blindness