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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Bunburying into Autumn (Bunbury 6)

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DianasLasso · 09/09/2020 13:08

Bit like blackberrying, with added derailment, sealioning and general JAQ-ing off. I'll copy and paste the opening post of the last thread.

The useful Bunbury Guide to Spotting Community Disruptors is constantly evolving.

The best research and advice is not to engage with community disruptors and trolls. As ever, if you suspect troll activity, report it to MNHQ.

Remember there are people out there who would like to silence us by fair means or foul.

This is a continuation of the Public Service Announcement thread:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3944572-Bunburys-guide-to-community-disruptors-part-5?pg=40

If and when you see threads plopped into FWR, especially a curious repeat of well worn topics, maybe check for poster history before engaging. AS is your friend.

There are a number of posts/posters/threads that are reproduced on Twitter or Facebook to foment controversy using screen shots & flagging to either MNHQ to have threads or posters deleted.. Sometimes, it’s used to approach commissioning editors with ideas for articles. It’s a tiresome tactic that we always have community disruptor posters who themselves post the comments that they then highlight elsewhere as purported evidence of racism, religious intolerance, anti-men sentiments, or transphobia.

Some helpful links can be found in the ‘Break it Down for me’ and ‘It never happens’ threads but in essence FermatsTheorem recommended “that in the absence of a block/hide poster button, I suggest the following strategy (given that you're talking to the lurkers).

Do not name check the sealion. Instead, respond to a depersonalised paraphrase:

"It is sometimes erroneously suggested that blah. Blah is wrong for the following reasons (short and pithy). If you need more information re. debunking blah, here's a link."

Then (this next step is important to combat derailment) go back up thread to the last useful contribution to the discussion, make sure you do name check that contributor, and pick up the discussion from that point.”

Go well Witches gin

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BernardBlackMissesLangCleg · 16/10/2020 20:07

bran with sliced banana was an essential of life during pregnancy

oh, I wish I'd figured that out. post baby too. i think every drop of moisture in my body went into making breast milk leaving none for 'other things' ya get me?

all that messing about with dulcolax, and just reaching for the all bran never occurred to em

ErrolTheDragon · 16/10/2020 21:13

Maybe I should put out a public service announcement on the pregnancy board? Serve with a glass of cranberry juice for complete preventative maintenance brekkie.

Moonbasealpha · 16/10/2020 22:47

I find when needed 5 or 6 dried prunes a day gets things moving. May be preferable to the scratchy All Bran. Mind you the sugar in dried fruit might be worse on the teeth.

nauticant · 16/10/2020 22:51

Advance search people. Advance search for the win.

DancelikeEmmaGoldman · 17/10/2020 02:44

On reflection I have discovered that the two bookmark folders which I add to most regularly are Feminism and Food. If the microcosm is s reflection of the macrocosm, or in radfem, the personal is the political, it’s no surprise that FWR so often bends toward recipes.

Women in the kitchen together, stirring and plotting.

Moonbasealpha · 17/10/2020 10:10

Yes Nauti always know which side they’re on. We must take sides. Don’t talk to anyone OUTSIDE THE GROUP.

It’s like The Village. I think some FWR regulars are just as responsible for creating this dystopian farce as the TRAs.

FloralBunting · 17/10/2020 10:13

Yes. Women, you need to give your energy and attention to everyone, and make no attempt to discern whether or not they have good intentions at all. Especially the people who think your boundaries mean nothing. Boundaries are exclusionary and wrong. They should always be dismissed and anyone who thinks otherwise should be shamed for it.

highame · 17/10/2020 10:20

floral you have a cracking way with words Wine

IwishNothingButTheBestForYou2 · 17/10/2020 10:28

On reflection I have discovered that the two bookmark folders which I add to most regularly are Feminism and Food.

I could've written that!

RufustheSniggeringReindeer · 17/10/2020 10:28

@highame

floral you have a cracking way with words Wine
Im just pleased that she works for good

She’d make an awesome supervillain

BernardBlackMissesLangCleg · 17/10/2020 10:44

One of the few good things about the whole 2020 shitshow has been a marked increase in the quality of my breakfasts due to being at home

these days I have a cafe au lait made with espresso from my stove top maker and a slice of seeded toast with plum jam. much, much better than a hurried muller light at my desk

just musing now. I wonder if there are any feminists trying to insinuate themselves into chatty threads on theangels?

Moonbasealpha · 17/10/2020 10:48

Not everyone is dismissing boundaries or posting in bad faith. You prejudge anyone who disagrees with you or holds a different world view. I never said you have to respond to everyone you will respond to who you want. It’s the eew don’t speak to that person playground silliness they’re not in our group immature childish behaviour that I was specifically referring to.

But you reframe it as you like.

TyroBurningDownTheCloset · 17/10/2020 10:53

I would have just as much of a word-based crush on Floral if she were a supervillain. But I reckon she'd be more of a benevolent dictator than a Sauron.

Chocolate chip WBH was ranked seven out of ten (too much banana, apparently). Madam is looking forward to a shiny microwave and a financial reward.

Datun · 17/10/2020 10:56

@DancelikeEmmaGoldman

On reflection I have discovered that the two bookmark folders which I add to most regularly are Feminism and Food. If the microcosm is s reflection of the macrocosm, or in radfem, the personal is the political, it’s no surprise that FWR so often bends toward recipes.

Women in the kitchen together, stirring and plotting.

Nice image.
Moonbasealpha · 17/10/2020 10:57

And insinuating to people they’re not welcome in a public forum in which they have as much right to be here as you do is bullying.

HecatesCats · 17/10/2020 10:58

One of the few good things about the whole 2020 shitshow has been a marked increase in the quality of my breakfasts due to being at home.

Same here Bernard, no more commute = more omelettes and better coffee.

MaudTheInvincible · 17/10/2020 11:02

Women in the kitchen together, stirring and plotting

This is perfect. Feels eternal, as it always was and always shall be Brew

FloralBunting · 17/10/2020 11:11

Crones, cackling round the cauldron.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 17/10/2020 11:14

Women in the kitchen together, stirring and plotting

Hubble bubble has a whole different meaning these days. Telescopes and spaceships. The original recipe for hubble-bubble is fairly disgusting, especially if you add baked beans to it.

Cocothefirst · 17/10/2020 11:17

We must be powerful witches if we're capable of creating a dystopia. 🤷‍♀️

ErrolTheDragon · 17/10/2020 11:18

Hubble bubble has a whole different meaning these days. Telescopes and spaceships.

Ah, there's my 'learn something new every day', thanks!Smile

Yesterday's was google 'Easter eggs' and the like.

MaudTheInvincible · 17/10/2020 11:29

One person's dystopia is another's utopia.

ArabellaScott · 17/10/2020 13:27

Liking the idea of a word-based crush! Off to google hubble bubble.

ArabellaScott · 17/10/2020 13:29

Google is unco-operative. Is it what I would call Bubble and squeak?

Butterer · 17/10/2020 13:33

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