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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Spectator accused, tried, and convicted of 'transphobia' in minutes.

149 replies

TheFleegleHasLanded · 03/09/2020 14:01

Please share this if you are on Twitter. Just when you think things can't get any more bonkers....one complaint from a genderwoo ideologist and convicted within minutes!

twitter.com/CUPWomensPledge/status/1301504347835166722?s=20

Spectator accused, tried, and convicted of 'transphobia' in minutes.
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Singasonga · 03/09/2020 14:03

I can't actually see what's going on in that. If there's something to be outraged about, you might need a better screenshot.

Datun · 03/09/2020 14:11

If unfounded accusations of transphobia are affecting people's revenue, then it's high time the law was involved.

A definition of transphobia would be a good place to start.

If factual reporting and stating biology constitutes transphobia, then people should be able to sue.

fatblackcatspaw · 03/09/2020 14:14

click on the link all will become clear

fatblackcatspaw · 03/09/2020 14:15

StopFundingHate has previously proved itself to be ok with any kind of hate if its against women

DianasLasso · 03/09/2020 14:18

If you follow the links it appears someone has complained to the Co-Op that they were taking out advertising space in the Spectator. It would appear that the Co-Op has immediately capitulated and said they'll tell their media package providers not to place adverts in the Speccy forthwith.

Bit like the endless targeting of companies on here.

Mostly it's harmless, in the sense that if a company wishes to withdraw advertising thus cutting themselves off from potentially lucrative marketing opportunities on the whim of a tiny subset of the population, that's their decision. (Still struggling to find a decent cake-making alternative to flora, mind you.)

Sometimes it's more sinister though - as when the GMB pulled out of a partnership with Mumsnet to provide support to women at the start of the Covid lockdown because some people on twitter said "MN - they're all transphobes." (And furthermore did it at a time when it was rapidly becaming apparent that women - shouldering more of the burden of home ed, more likely to be in caring professions, more likely to be part timers - were likely to be disproportionately hit by the economic consequences of lockdown).

Sometimes it tips over into abusive - as when the Body Shop trolled JK Rolling about being a domestic violence survivor as part of their woker-than-woke politics. That was fucking unforgiveable.

Tootletum · 03/09/2020 14:21

Can't imagine many spectator readers shop at the co-op anyway, so can't imagine their possible boycott will make much difference.

DianasLasso · 03/09/2020 14:25

@Tootletum

Can't imagine many spectator readers shop at the co-op anyway, so can't imagine their possible boycott will make much difference.
What are you talking about? I buy all my Gentleman's Relish there. Wink
MondayYogurt · 03/09/2020 14:34

Well "Alex - fold up toy designer" certainly seems to have a lot of time for making insults on twitter.
No one's actually shown proof of the transphobia yet.

fatblackcatspaw · 03/09/2020 14:35

all the Col Bufty Spectator types who live deep in the coutnry probaby do shop there as the Coop has stores that the other supermarkets deem not profitable

MondayYogurt · 03/09/2020 14:42

@fatblackcatspaw

StopFundingHate has previously proved itself to be ok with any kind of hate if its against women
Maybe it's time to ask them what examples of misogyny they have helped defund.
BovaryX · 03/09/2020 14:47

The Spectator does not need to give a flying duck about this. Its readership is increasing because it doesn't cave to the authoritarian dictates of the Robespierre faction. Meanwhile, the craven shenanigans of legacy media which refuses to report 'problematic' news is alienating its dwindling audience.

Datun · 03/09/2020 14:56

What are you talking about? I buy all my Gentleman's Relish there

Surely you mean People Who Like Relish, relish.

DianasLasso · 03/09/2020 15:00

@Datun

What are you talking about? I buy all my Gentleman's Relish there

Surely you mean People Who Like Relish, relish.

Grin

I'm invoking the penis-owner exemption here.

Hence, Gilette: the best a man can get. Movember to raise funds for men who get prostate cancer.

Men, man, men, man... You can name biology without a social media pile-on so long as you have a penis.

Escapeplanning · 03/09/2020 15:19

The Coop are bound to be onboard with this. They had a coke snorting boss known as the Crystal Methodist in charge. Anything goes at the Coop.

Escapeplanning · 03/09/2020 15:19

www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-24978728

Here he is.

stumbledin · 03/09/2020 15:25

Would have thought it worth writing to the Co-op (as a committed customer Grin ) and say you can no longer shop at a store that is against free speech, and you have always thought that they have shown they are interested in having a wide range of people as customers by for instance advertsing in the Spectator!

BitterAndOnlySlightlyTwisted · 03/09/2020 15:31

So glad I took out a subscription to the Speccy recently.

HPFA · 03/09/2020 15:35

I made a very polite request to one commentator to link to these transphobic comments and was told it was up to me to educate myself out of my ignorance and prejudice.

Seriously how have the people promoting this ideology got into such positions of authority. Very basic and polite requests "can you explain further what you mean by that please? " could you produce some evidence please?" are met with contempt, abuse and accusations that you're a murderer. Why does anyone who has a legitimate case to argue need to resort to this?

noimkaren · 03/09/2020 15:44

If anyone's interested The Spectator TV starts tonight at 6pm with Andrew Neil (another grown up silenced by the BBC)
tv.spectator.co.uk/event/the-week-in-60-minutes-with-andrew-neil

gardenbird48 · 03/09/2020 16:05

I was thinking about subscribing to the Spectator on the strength their articles and journalists like James - so I'm off to do that right now and if I can, I'll tell them why.

merrymouse · 03/09/2020 16:08

The Spectator publishes loads of opinion pieces by people who have views that might not be in line with the Co-ops mission statement/core values.

However, James Kirkup has only ever written on this issue in support of women's rights. Why are the Co-op withdrawing advertising because somebody is standing up for women's rights?

highame · 03/09/2020 16:14

This will probably result in a massive increase in subs for the Spectator. Funny that Grin

ChattyLion · 03/09/2020 16:16

Well according to Coop’s ethical Code the Coop give their members ‘a say in how they run their business‘.
www.co-operative.coop/ethics
Go to their ethical policies page.

Don’t remember being asked if they should have sexist misogynistic policies. I definitely am a member.

Anyone can join to be a member for £1
www.coop.co.uk/membership

SmallPug · 03/09/2020 16:29

@DianasLasso

If you follow the links it appears someone has complained to the Co-Op that they were taking out advertising space in the Spectator. It would appear that the Co-Op has immediately capitulated and said they'll tell their media package providers not to place adverts in the Speccy forthwith.

Bit like the endless targeting of companies on here.

Mostly it's harmless, in the sense that if a company wishes to withdraw advertising thus cutting themselves off from potentially lucrative marketing opportunities on the whim of a tiny subset of the population, that's their decision. (Still struggling to find a decent cake-making alternative to flora, mind you.)

Sometimes it's more sinister though - as when the GMB pulled out of a partnership with Mumsnet to provide support to women at the start of the Covid lockdown because some people on twitter said "MN - they're all transphobes." (And furthermore did it at a time when it was rapidly becaming apparent that women - shouldering more of the burden of home ed, more likely to be in caring professions, more likely to be part timers - were likely to be disproportionately hit by the economic consequences of lockdown).

Sometimes it tips over into abusive - as when the Body Shop trolled JK Rolling about being a domestic violence survivor as part of their woker-than-woke politics. That was fucking unforgiveable.

What did Flora do?! Oh no
gardenbird48 · 03/09/2020 16:44

un - bloody - believable.

Subscription purchased, email sent to the editor of The Spectator telling him why he needs to continue publishing James Kirkup and I'm still trying to find my Co op membership no. to give them a piece of my mind. I visit sometimes as I live in the back of beyond but I do have some alternatives now (and they don't do free range chicken).

Diana - I don't know about the Flora situation but I use Pure in cakes - delicious!

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