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Spectator accused, tried, and convicted of 'transphobia' in minutes.

149 replies

TheFleegleHasLanded · 03/09/2020 14:01

Please share this if you are on Twitter. Just when you think things can't get any more bonkers....one complaint from a genderwoo ideologist and convicted within minutes!

twitter.com/CUPWomensPledge/status/1301504347835166722?s=20

Spectator accused, tried, and convicted of 'transphobia' in minutes.
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PronounssheRa · 04/09/2020 14:21

The perpetually offended and the Co-op have just gifted the spectator the kind of marketing money can't buy.

SirSamuelVimesBlackboardMonito · 04/09/2020 14:44

@PronounssheRa

The perpetually offended and the Co-op have just gifted the spectator the kind of marketing money can't buy.
Yep. It's funny how they don't get that.
BovaryX · 04/09/2020 14:45

@PronounssheRa

The perpetually offended and the Co-op have just gifted the spectator the kind of marketing money can't buy.
Yep. It's a PR dream for The Spectator....
RoyalCorgi · 04/09/2020 15:06

Not normally a fan of Andrew Neil, but absolutely hilarious to see him banning the Co-op from advertising in the Spectator. How pathetic of the Co-op to cave in so quickly to pressure from the TRAs.

I loved this response to the Co-op statement:

"I'm only going to shoplift in coop from now on."

RoyalCorgi · 04/09/2020 15:09

Oh wow, new tweet from the Co-op:

"Co-op
@coopuk

Replying to
@afneil
That’s escalated quickly and we want to set the record straight. The tweet sent yesterday was incorrect and does not reflect our advertising position. Our policy supports editorial freedom and you can read more about it here: coop.uk/3bs0jhB

Doyoumind · 04/09/2020 15:13

Was just coming here to update on the co-op response. Interesting...

Doyoumind · 04/09/2020 15:15

I feel a bit sorry for Alice.

merrymouse · 04/09/2020 15:17

Interesting Royal Corgi - this is their actual policy from 2018 following the 'stop funding hate' campaign.

Looks like the person running the twitter account doesn't know who shops at Co-op.

"A key element of our policy has been to ensure we protect the value of our Co-op which, as a consumer co-operative, includes commercial value.
We know that these publications are purchased by a significant number of members and customers. Sales of The Daily Express, The Daily Mail and The Sun remain an important revenue source in 2018 with nearly 1 million members buying one of those three titles. In addition, the groceries associated with sales of those newspapers and, more generally with members who buy those newspapers, is also significant.

STOP FUNDING HATE CAMPAIGN
We also note the re-orientation of the Stop Funding Hate campaign itself as set out in November 2018 because ‘over the past year we’ve started to see some big changes...there has been a noticeable drop in the number of anti-migrant and anti-Muslim front pages.’

CONCLUSION
The policy we put in place in 2017 sought to protect the commercial and social value of the Co-op. During 2018 we have continued to engage with publications
to share the co-operative difference and this policy
has not only helped us reach more customers with
our products and services but also has directly led to engagement with these titles which has seen increased coverage of the issues our members care about including our campaigns and ethics agenda. Therefore, we will retain the existing policy as it stands."

HPFA · 04/09/2020 15:18

If there is any hope it's that I think we're starting to reach the stage where companies/publications have to worry just a little bit about the reaction from women now.

Previously they've only been concerned to avoid offending one side - that may be changing now.

SirSamuelVimesBlackboardMonito · 04/09/2020 15:19

[quote RoyalCorgi]Oh wow, new tweet from the Co-op:

"Co-op
@coopuk

Replying to
@afneil
That’s escalated quickly and we want to set the record straight. The tweet sent yesterday was incorrect and does not reflect our advertising position. Our policy supports editorial freedom and you can read more about it here: coop.uk/3bs0jhB[/quote]
Ah ha ha ha Grin

SerenityNowwwww · 04/09/2020 15:19

[quote RoyalCorgi]Oh wow, new tweet from the Co-op:

"Co-op
@coopuk

Replying to
@afneil
That’s escalated quickly and we want to set the record straight. The tweet sent yesterday was incorrect and does not reflect our advertising position. Our policy supports editorial freedom and you can read more about it here: coop.uk/3bs0jhB[/quote]
Haha o hahahahaha
O ha.

No...

SerenityNowwwww · 04/09/2020 15:22

I’m only saying that because I’ve been in marketing for donkeys years and people still think that anyone can be let loose in the general public.

No. It’s a proper job for qualified people you know...

I would have had my backside sacked for tweeting company policy (that I seemed to have agreed myself). Possibly sued (aways check your contract).

KayakingOnDown · 04/09/2020 15:27

I don't feel sorry for Alice at all. Just who did she think she was to promise to try to pull advertising based on one complaint on Twitter?

merrymouse · 04/09/2020 15:30

I would have had my backside sacked for tweeting company policy (that I seemed to have agreed myself). Possibly sued (aways check your contract).

If they want to poach somebody, whoever is running the Spectator account seems quite good... Grin

SerenityNowwwww · 04/09/2020 15:35

That’s what I’m saying - companies seem to just hand over social media accounts to people and don’t seem to give them training. Yes we all make mistakes and have to learn - but not so public! Don’t people learn about reputation management anymore?

I actually really do hope that this is a ‘marketing name’ (ie a generic name that staff use to engage with the outside world that isn’t their real name - it avoids stalkers) so that the operator doesn’t get grief over this.

MoltenLasagne · 04/09/2020 15:37

Wow, not surprised the Co-Op have done a hasty retreat but still rather enjoyable to see. Honestly, the daft employee who thought that was an appropriate response, have they never heard of the words "that's above my pay grade"?

RoyalCorgi · 04/09/2020 15:39

I don't feel sorry for Alice at all. Just who did she think she was to promise to try to pull advertising based on one complaint on Twitter?

Absolutely. Imagine thinking you can overturn your employer's advertising policy in a single tweet. I'm glad someone senior saw what she was up to and acted on it.

Cwenthryth · 04/09/2020 15:43

Good bloody point actually, Co-op don’t just advertise in the Spec, they sell it too, right? Does ‘Alice’ not know what company she works for?

Silly Alice. Hopefully this is a learning point for her, if she manages to keep her job.

Divorcedatlast · 04/09/2020 15:43

Co-op has the only female CEO in Grocery and a majority female executive.

merrymouse · 04/09/2020 15:47

You would have thought that a big company like the Co-op would be a bit more on the ball. They clearly haven't briefed the person who runs their twitter account on either their policies or the consumers who use their services.

SerenityNowwwww · 04/09/2020 15:49

Maybe it’s an agency managing the account? Either way, not very professional.

SerenityNowwwww · 04/09/2020 15:52

Oh dear. Just saw the coop tweet where they called someone a Karen.

All sympathy and understanding gone.

Divorcedatlast · 04/09/2020 15:54

@SerenityNowwwww

Oh dear. Just saw the coop tweet where they called someone a Karen.

All sympathy and understanding gone.

Really?! Can you link
Lisz · 04/09/2020 15:56

Andrew O Neil ‘banning’ an advertiser when they already said they won’t advertise anymore. Jesus guys I know we are looking a bit desperate for heroes on ‘our side’ but there’s no need to fall for such blatant claptrap.

SerenityNowwwww · 04/09/2020 15:56

Not quite sure now - people are saying it was an address to someone called Karen - but I didn’t see anyone of that name it the tweet just said ‘^Karen’

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