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Stats on attack on women by men self identifying as women?

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Bb2019 · 13/08/2020 15:16

Hello everyone,

I've been lurking on this board and generally following the mainstream uk press about trans issues including the JK Rowling debate etc.

I've been shocked with the likes of Mermaids and the Tavistock centre prescribing under 18s life changing treatments.

I'm still trying to understand the implications and form an informed opinion on the use of women only places by trans women. I understand it would make many women uncomfortable if it were obvious.

Do we have any statistics or research done on how often women or girls have been attacked in their own spaces by men passing as trans women and or by trans women? I know it happens anecdotally but how much more likely is it to happen? Is it isolated incidents or is the risk much heightened? Perhaps it's not possible to do this type of research though due to a paucity of data?

Thanks!

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TorkTorkBam · 21/08/2020 23:23

Predators are good at sniffing out the vulnerable. There are lots of ways to be vulnerable. Identifying as trans would be one of those ways. Nobody is denying that.

Women's spaces are not generalised vulnerable people spaces.

The man who identifies as trans could be having the most awful time, predated by the worst kind of men at every turn. That would be awful. It still would not mean women have to take him in as if he were a biological female.

One thing does not follow the other, except for sexist people who see women as support humans such that man in pain obviously leads to women give him what he wants

thinkingaboutLangCleg · 22/08/2020 09:20

I know you all don't like Stonewall much so I didn't want to use their research, although I'm not sure they've done any on sexual assaults specifically.

Scientists don’t assess research on the basis of whether or not they like the people who did it! They assess its methodology, reliability, reproducibility etc. True, the researcher’s reputation for honesty and accuracy would obviously carry some weight.

Justhadathought · 22/08/2020 09:48

Threatening behaviour does not just mean physical or sexual assault, for women it also means every kind of 'peeping tom' type activity or behaviour; it means flashing ( self exposure); it means inappropriate conversation or personal questions; it means having your personal space/boundaries knowingly invaded.

There was a thread on this forum once in which women who worked on telephone helplines, including the samaritans reported and recounted the many multiples of occasions in which they were subject to sexualised, threatening, 'heavy breathing' phone calls from men. My own son works on a telephone helpline for a housing association, and he tells me that the women on the team often experience this kind of thing.

Single sex spaces and services give women a much needed break from all of this, and offer them protection in intimate situations.

DickKerrLadies · 22/08/2020 10:41

Just caught up on this thread and wanted to post my admiration for the wonderful posts here counteracting the lies and mistruths. I won't mention names as I don't want to miss anyone out but be assured that every time I opened my mouth reading this thread to say something like "well that's bollocks" you all managed to say it in a much more articulate way. Smile

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