Lush Edinburgh say they wouldn't serve anyone in "woman" T-shirt

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Apparently some stickers found their way onto the Lush Edinburgh storefront causing horror and consternation on Princes St this morning. They are too awful to be shared, obviously, but clearly they carried some message of hateful bigotry - or biological fact as it used to be known.

Anyway, staff on the thread are letting it be known that anyone wearing a T-shirt carrying the dictionary definition of a woman would not be served - haven't seen a comment on what would happen if it said 'I ❤️ JKR'. Not sure how legal that is.

www.facebook.com/116815671689234/posts/3431297510241017/

Anyone got a link to them being that specific?

Not a link as I don’t think it will take you to the specific comment so here are some screenshots of it.

I think I have them in the wrong order. First she asked “so to clarify...”

Then She posted a photo to show which t-shirt she meant, then lush said “yes” when she said “will I be refused entry wearing this t-shirt?”

We have attracted minorities who have come to us as a refuge from prejudice, bullying or marginalisation. 🤣🤣🤣
There's me thinking thinking people just went in to buy a fecking bath bomb 🤷🏻‍♀️ Safe environment, my arse.

Googling that name only has this:

medium.com/@notCursedE/transphobe-barred-from-macclesfield-pub-because-transphobia-sucks-8cd73ba3696a

It's quite an unusual name.

Not at all a safe environment for anyone with a working sense of smell. (Or a brain)

Oh sorry I misunderstood the tweets!

Go Rebekah!

@CountreeGurl

I think it is great to see a business standing up for what it believes in. If you don't like it don't shop there, simple.

It is a problem when what it believes in is discrimination against women on the basis of sex.

Both my cousin and my son have eczema so I started making them lotion bars without the preservatives and other chemicals back in the 1970s. You would be surprised how easy it is to melt and pour them.

I don’t know how to link but HI / MM is being mean on Twitter about Keira B and her partner re this story.

@CousinKrispy I use Rush Organics (yes! rush not lush!) no SLS and they were really helpful and nice when I accidentally bought something containing nuts!

Can someone link to the post and comments please?

I wonder what would happen if DH would bravely volunteer to squeeze into my woman definition tee shirt and pass through the lush smog of sickliness....

If rejected he could claim transphobia because he's proudly identified as a woman as soon as he passes the threshold of woke stench...

It's a big ask - not the tee shirt just getting within 2 meters of the shop makes me sick and I'm amazed anyone can shop there.

I suspect it might be (yet another) corporate own goal. Telling the vast (>90%) of your customer base that defining themselves is offensive, seems short-sighted. Particularly when they publicise it so loudly. Their products are woefully over-priced in a crowded marketplace; be interesting to see how this plays out for them. In the current global crisis, people have less disposable income and it tends to be women who make household spending decisions ...

I’d also wonder about the future career of an employee who mistakes an organisation’s woke advertising as a business driver, rather than profit.

“The main target audience of Lush Cosmetics are working women between 18 and 45 years old. These women have a higher education and middle-high incomes.”
act201718.wordpress.com/2017/10/08/lush-cosmetics-customer-definition/

“All this is despite the fact that Lush’s Instagram followers are 89 percent female and 11 percent male (Instagram doesn’t have an option for users to identify as nonbinary), according to Lush. Lush wouldn’t give the gender breakdown of buyers; Halls said the majority are women, but men are a growing portion of them.”
digiday.com/marketing/lush-features-men-women-alike-marketing/

Their Instagram post has no negative comments... Yet ! Surely this has to be tested somehow, that'd they'd refuse to sell to someone in a AHF t shirt? Whoever it is, please film it!

Dammit, I don’t have any truck with the thrush bombs side of the business, but ultrabland face wash and skindrink moisturiser are the only things that my sensitive skin will tolerate. Anyone any ideas for alternatives?

What a bunch of virtue signalling twats those lush folk are.

Thankfully I can't bear the smell of their products. They stink out the high street.

@SophocIestheFox

Dammit, I don’t have any truck with the thrush bombs side of the business, but ultrabland face wash and skindrink moisturiser are the only things that my sensitive skin will tolerate. Anyone any ideas for alternatives?

Thrush bombs lol. Was that an intentional typo? :D

@Thisismytimetoshine

We have attracted minorities who have come to us as a refuge from prejudice, bullying or marginalisation. 🤣🤣🤣 There's me thinking thinking people just went in to buy a fecking bath bomb 🤷🏻‍♀️ Safe environment, my arse.

Lol. I don't see Lush shops as a safe haven for bullied or marginalised people. What are they on about?

@JellyfishandShells

How big is the trans market to them anyway ? - there can only be a limited amount of fantasy girly self care bath bomb sessions to cater for. The rest of their market is 10 year old girls, going by the one I passed today and pocket money isn’t limitless.

Interesting...I did a business course recently for a niche industry, and the teacher said, whatever you do, don't brand yourselves to cater to trans/queer identified people, you'll be shooting yourself in the foot because they form such a small segment of the population. She said she knew business owners who had fucked up by branding themselves as catering to trans folk but found the market was too small for them to sustain themselves. I think all the shouty TRAs on Twitter make it seem like it's a big market.

[quote blurpityblurp]They have a history of forcing women female vagina-having staff into sexually abusive work situations.

mitheringsfrommorningside.wordpress.com/tag/lush-cruelty-free-kisses/[/quote]
That's really disgusting.

We have attracted minorities who have come to us as a refuge from prejudice, bullying or marginalisation. 🤣🤣🤣
There's me thinking thinking people just went in to buy a fecking bath bomb 🤷🏻‍♀️ Safe environment, my arse.

It seems Lush UK have delusions of grandeur or adequacy one of the two or maybe both.

I hope they go under.!

It looks like they also have had days where they ask their staff to work naked apart from an apron to make a point about the environment and plastic packaging. I wonder what the staff feel about this?

I think lush are trying to do (badly) what other brands do with totally other topics. You work out what segment of the market you want, work out what they hate, then by proclaiming you hate that too, you purposefully exclude the people who you want to exclude and engender a more passionate and loyal response about the brand from your desired segment. If you're insipid and don't make anyone identify with your brand, you risk having no customers at all. The trouble is lush have chosen the wrong issue to be against and have misjudged how many other people are against that issue. Its insane against the backdrop of shops closing left right and centre because of a pandemic that they'd risk pissing off their demographic like this. To say the very definition of their customer base, adult human female, is offensive... It's the business version of suicide!

Would they not be breaking the law for refusing to serve someone in an AHF or I love JKR t-shirt?

Lush Edinburgh say they wouldn't serve anyone in "woman" T-shirt

Fine, they’ve just ensured I won’t spend any more money in their shops, given that head office must have approved that message. It was an easy place to buy small presents for relatives who like that kind of thing. But plenty of other shops manage to sell soap and accept women’s human rights.

Just marking my place. Sadly can’t boycott them as I really don’t buy their headache/allergy/eczema inducing shite.