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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Today’s witch burning - Rosie Duffield MP

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Kit19 · 01/08/2020 15:50

has had to lock down her Twitter account after being inundated with hate for saying women have cervix’s

The TRA are now spamming labour with complaints about her transphobia & demands she is sacked

I’m planning to email my support fir her copying in Keir Starmer

(And yes of course LOJ is involved!)

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TheBuffster · 13/01/2021 21:57

That sounds good.

ChoosandChipsandSealingWax · 13/01/2021 23:14

I bloody love Rosie’s quote in Pink News! ❤️ Well said. Priorities. It makes me so Very Tired and CROSS that we are having to fight this fight when there are so many other more important things (really, there are - isn’t this whole identity battle so selfishly narcissistic?) to fight for.

But fight we MUST. Do not disturb the lioness with her young. Is a REALLY BASIC principle. I mean, how stupid ARE these TRAs?? Do they think we will - or even CAN - back down?? Survival, innit.

ChoosandChipsandSealingWax · 13/01/2021 23:19

(Given their propensity to deny biology, and the means of procreation, and gametes, it does not much surprise me that they are not thinking long term survival. If they were, they would not be fighting (infighting?) natural allies (ie women) - with a common oppressor: (ie men).

Wandawomble · 15/01/2021 02:07

People are dying and TRA’d are denying biology (science) when what we need is science to deal with the epidemic WHICH BEHAVES DIFFERENTLY IN BIOLOGICAL MEN. But who cares about biology! Wearing a dress is clearly going to make you less likely to get sick right?

gardenbird48 · 15/01/2021 08:31

an interesting thread. A Lib Dem MP is getting called out by another LD MP for calling for Rosie to be excluded by the 50:50 Women campaign (to improve women's representation in politics) because she doesn't support 'ALL' women.

twitter.com/Alexa_Kantor/status/1349696071992279040

newyearnewname123 · 15/01/2021 08:58

The irony, a quote from the medium article in that Twitter link.

We have all been on the receiving end of abuse; been harassed, smeared and bullied by ‘gender critical’ people online sharing the same views as Rosie Duffield. A feminism that leads women to pile on abuse on other women is not feminism.

They also quote the Dalai Lama, any chance of a Dalai Lama being a woman? I wonder how they manage to always pick boys.

ArabellaScott · 15/01/2021 09:05

The Dalai Lama did actually suggest the next DL might be female. Smile

teawamutu · 15/01/2021 09:11

The woke shite is working out so well for them, can see why they're sticking with it.

UppityPuppity · 15/01/2021 09:19

gardenbird48

Thanks for the link. She writes:

"It’s all well and good standing up for your ideals, but when people are hurting because of them, what good are you actually doing in the world?"

The cognitive dissonance is breathtaking...

Woman’s rights to and for political representation anyone?

Imnobody4 · 15/01/2021 09:23

'A feminism that does not use personal experience of violence to pick a convenient group of outsiders to punish, a group even more marginalised and vulnerable than themselves.'
Another gem from the letter on medium.

UppityPuppity · 15/01/2021 09:29

Yes - oh the irony!

'A feminism that does not use personal experience of violence to pick a convenient group of outsiders to punish, a group even more marginalised and vulnerable than themselves.'

Another gem from the letter on medium

And how do we know they are ‘marginalised and vulnerable’ without using personal experiences?

The difference is that words are violence, but actual violence towards women - well that’s irrelevant...

littlbrowndog · 15/01/2021 10:09

Yes he has pronouns as well

Today’s witch burning - Rosie Duffield MP
HecatesCats · 15/01/2021 10:24

a group even more marginalised and vulnerable than themselves

But they're not. Their insistence on anyone who says they are a woman is a woman makes a mockery of that anyway. That means it includes rich white make born people like Pip Bunce and Eddie Izzard who are not among the most marginalised and oppressed in our society by any stretch of the imagination. These people have no grip on reality, they just trot out untruths for the credulous. In addition the stats for Transwomen in the UK do not put them at greater risk of murder than women. They're trying to annexe a movement through manipulation.

HecatesCats · 15/01/2021 10:24

Male born

UppityPuppity · 15/01/2021 10:31

a group even more marginalised and vulnerable than themselves

But they're not.

Indeed - and a reminder that horrifically, the most vulnerable group in society at risk of injury and death is the under ones. But they don’t count..

MerchedCymru · 15/01/2021 11:23

At the launch of 50:50, female MPs from all political parties were asked if they would be happy with a 50:50 parliament of men and transwomen.

They all said yes. Every one of them.

TheBuffster · 15/01/2021 11:32

@MerchedCymru

At the launch of 50:50, female MPs from all political parties were asked if they would be happy with a 50:50 parliament of men and transwomen.

They all said yes. Every one of them.

Just a thought but are they mixing up transmen with trans women? Probably not, but still... I think a lot of people not read up make that mistake. Could it be that's why so many sensible people tweet twaw blindly?
RozWatching · 15/01/2021 11:41

@MerchedCymru

At the launch of 50:50, female MPs from all political parties were asked if they would be happy with a 50:50 parliament of men and transwomen.

They all said yes. Every one of them.

Oh ffs. So what is the point of it then? A 100% male parliament is ok as long as half of the men say they feel like a woman? Shame on them.
TheBuffster · 15/01/2021 11:49

They are still in the this'll never happen camp.

yourhairiswinterfire · 15/01/2021 11:54

@MerchedCymru

At the launch of 50:50, female MPs from all political parties were asked if they would be happy with a 50:50 parliament of men and transwomen.

They all said yes. Every one of them.

Idiots. It's like they're determined to drag us backwards where we have to start fighting for women from scratch all over again.

Absolute clowns.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 15/01/2021 12:03

Just a thought but are they mixing up transmen with trans women?
Probably not, but still... I think a lot of people not read up make that mistake. Could it be that's why so many sensible people tweet twaw blindly?

No, they weren't. A friend of mine was there and it was clear who they meant.

But you have a point with people less familiar with this issue.

UppityPuppity · 15/01/2021 12:12

At the launch of 50:50, female MPs from all political parties were asked if they would be happy with a 50:50 parliament of men and transwomen.

They all said yes. Every one of them.

So signed up members for their own political erasure in plain site??!! No female born people allowed. It would be funny if it wasn’t so deranged.

Alltheprettyseahorses · 15/01/2021 12:20

@MerchedCymru

At the launch of 50:50, female MPs from all political parties were asked if they would be happy with a 50:50 parliament of men and transwomen.

They all said yes. Every one of them.

Why are these women being trusted to represent women and women's interests then? We are 51% of the population, we have had the vote for a mere century and a few privileged women would throw it away because they might get pats on the head from men. It doesn't help transpeople either, quite the opposite.
TheBuffster · 15/01/2021 12:25

I can only assume that they're under the imperious curse to collude in their own oppression like this.

NecessaryScene1 · 15/01/2021 12:33

Where does the idea of a 50:50 split come from? If it's not based on the (nearly) 50:50 sex ratio, how do you justify that ratio in particular?

Plus...

EVEN if you are a genderologist and believe that gender is a real thing and a 50:50 (why?) gender split would be good, how do you get from there to thinking that a 100:0 sex ratio would be fine?

Would they equally be happy with 100% white? 100% black? 100% straight? 100% Catholic? 100% English? 100% non-scientists? 100% privately educated? 100% over-60? 100% under-30? 100% townies?

Is it only specifically 100% male and 0% female they'd be happy with? Surely 0% representation of any group is bad?

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