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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Today’s witch burning - Rosie Duffield MP

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Kit19 · 01/08/2020 15:50

has had to lock down her Twitter account after being inundated with hate for saying women have cervix’s

The TRA are now spamming labour with complaints about her transphobia & demands she is sacked

I’m planning to email my support fir her copying in Keir Starmer

(And yes of course LOJ is involved!)

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SirSamuelVimesBlackboardMonito · 01/08/2020 15:53

Ffs.

I don't have twitter, can you post screenshots? Happy to do some emailing but need to know what I'm talking about.

Kit19 · 01/08/2020 15:57

Her account is locked now but twitter is full of TRA consumed with joy at having a whole new person to drag to the ducking stool

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Siablue · 01/08/2020 16:03

I can’t see what she said only LOJ’s histrionic interpretation apparently trans people will commit suicide (he would combust if he went to a midwifery lecture).

Kit19 · 01/08/2020 16:05

I found this but assume it’s a reply to somone yelling transphobe at her

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MrsSlocombesPussy · 01/08/2020 16:06

Here's her thought crime / hate speech

Today’s witch burning - Rosie Duffield MP
Floisme · 01/08/2020 16:30

I didn't see what she originally said but Julie Bindel has tweeted in support of Duffield.

Time for Keir Starmer to step up I think. I'm certainly watching.

thehumanformerlyknownasfemale · 01/08/2020 16:30

Jackie Doyle-Price is defending her. Why can't we have more politicians willing to speak out like this?

twitter.com/JackieDP/status/1289547867955302401

truthisarevolutionaryact · 01/08/2020 16:37

Can you imagine Starmer having to get off the fence about this one? He won't of course. It will all be "very sensitive and difficult" and he'll talk about being kind and respectful. While he stands by and watches the trans terrorists trash not only another woman's career but eradicate the identify of half of the population.

Nuffaluff · 01/08/2020 16:40

I think it will be very interesting to see what Keri Starmer does about this.
I predict that he will try to ignore it.

testing987654321 · 01/08/2020 16:41

Very pleased she has spoken up. The response is ridiculous, but it's better that the conversation is happening rather than people being too scared to say anything.

Time to write an email of support.

BentBastard · 01/08/2020 16:46

I expect she'll be forced to back track publicly but I doubt that will change her private views.

I have real sympathy for her being a female Labour MP with even vaguely GC views at this time. It must be astonishingly difficult right now

NiceGerbil · 01/08/2020 16:52

Some books to on that thread has started

'woman is a gender role'

FUCK OFF YOU UTTER ARSEHOLE

so he thinks that issues affecting women and girls all over the world are because they ARE a gender role. Nothing more nothing less. Not a person. A gender role. A 2D sterotype.

Men have believed this of us FOREVER and here is a guy stating this as fact.

Jesus wept.

Collidascope · 01/08/2020 17:01

Of course. A woman who has done excellent work on the domestic violence bill, but obviously that counts for nothing when weighed against the great crime of recognising and talking about female biology. Another one interested to see if Keir Starmer will react. I suspect he'll continue to sit on that fence.

Vargas · 01/08/2020 17:01

I've just sent her an email in support, cc my local MP.

I really hope Keir Starmer does the right thing, no waffling please!!

KittyHawke80 · 01/08/2020 17:04

Meh. She's incredibly lightweight. Not much going upstairs at all. Which probably means she'll be leader in about eight years.

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Cuntysnark · 01/08/2020 17:09

I’ve emailed her thanking her.

testing987654321 · 01/08/2020 17:10

Just sent an email to her in support, cc'd in local mp and Keir Starmer.

QueenYnci · 01/08/2020 17:12

I emailed my support to her earlier copying in Starmer. I really hope she doesn't get bullied in to the usual grovelling retraction with promises of re-education.

I'm going to email my MP as well although I know from experience I'm wasting my time with him on this issue. The last time I wrote to him the reply consisted of a patronising lecture on needing to be kind.

BatShite · 01/08/2020 17:12

I can’t see what she said only LOJ’s histrionic interpretation apparently trans people will commit suicide (he would combust if he went to a midwifery lecture)

Trans people will commit suicide because only female people have cervices?

But its not a mental health issue.

Not at all.

No way.

nauticant · 01/08/2020 17:19

Looking at this tweet from one of the witch-finders:

twitter.com/CaoimheHaleLab/status/1289521361728176128

and then looking at the responses, I'm not sure that the TRAs have the momentum (DYSWIDT?) that they were taking for granted a year ago.

By the way, did anyone else read that name at HateLab?

BatShite · 01/08/2020 17:21

Would love to be a fly on the wall in Labour HQ..surely even they know the tide is hugely turning now and that..believing in biology is 'back in fashion' and no longer bigotted..what to do Grin

nauticant · 01/08/2020 17:26

Had a look at Owen Jones' contribution. If I've got the right tweet, it's a "nudge-nudge, there's this woman who I'm not naming (although you can easily identify her) who said a bad thing". That's one of the Squealer-ist interventions I've seen from him.

nauticant · 01/08/2020 17:28

twitter.com/BillWard60/status/1289572896596164609

Blimey! Just to make sure we know exactly where they're coming from.

CeciledeVolanges · 01/08/2020 17:32

I have lurked silently here for quite a while, but this is really upsetting and I finally want to join this conversation.

Rosie Duffield is a survivor of domestic abuse and got emotional abuse added to the definition in the Domestic Abuse Bill (which I’m also working on behind the scenes). Her speech was really brave and upsetting to hear. I can’t really articulate my thoughts right now but she has been through the same thing I have - real violence with words over a sustained period of time, which slowly erodes your sense of self, reality and truth. Seeing people allege that trans people are going to be harmed, that Rosie Duffield is attacking people, or that people are being damaged just by the statement “only women have cervices” is upsetting me more than I can say, and I don’t really know why, except that it’s like a continuation of abuse and gaslighting by the very people who are claiming to be hurt. If trans men wink out of existence as a result of the statement of a simple biological fact, god knows what any kind of actual abuse or hatred would do.

No other point of view is treated like that. People are allowed to argue for and against abortion and around racism, antisemitism, all sorts of things - nobody promised to fire Christopher Chope into space or called him a dumb b*tch for thwarting the upskirting legislation, both of which I’ve seen about Rosie Duffield. It terrifies me.

One final thing - as a result of growing up around DV and with EA I have had an eating disorder for a long while. It’s mostly at bay now but I feel constantly like I’m wearing a fat suit, I want to rip my skin off, I’m hideous, I take up too much space and so on. It’s dreadful, and relentless, and my body feels very wrong. I’ve never got to the top of an NHS waiting list, by the way. And it is difficult to deal with people who comment negatively on my weight, or people lauding weight loss generally, or anything “triggering” but I can and do deal with them. But I can’t imagine what it would be like to have it validated that I am in the wrong body, or to decide to ban anyone from saying I’m anything but skeletal, I just can’t imagine that ever happening. And the reason I overreact to comments about my weight is BECAUSE I’m ill, because there is something wrong in my brain.

Sorry that was long, and thanks everyone here who has had to be brave and speak out, or endure abuse about this.

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