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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Paedophile with 1500 abuse images now identifies as a woman

114 replies

QuarantineDream · 14/07/2020 13:48

Also claims it was "their" gender dysphoria that caused them to download the images of pre-pubescent girls being abused.

Judge disagreed with that assessment - said Anthony had clearly gotten sexual gratification from the images - and yet STILL handed down a 2-year suspended sentence... Isn't that the definition of male privilege?

Female pronouns throughout the article.

www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/news/derby-news/derby-pervert-im-paedophile-123-4320791

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CatandtheFiddle · 14/07/2020 14:54

Also claims it was "their" gender dysphoria that caused them to download the images of pre-pubescent girls being abused

As Mandy Rice-Davies immortally said "Well, he would, wouldn't he?"

CatandtheFiddle · 14/07/2020 15:00

He must have thought he'd be getting a custodial sentence and thought he'd have an easier time, plus access to women, in a female jail

Oh no no no no., perish the thought. How can you be sooooo cruel & cynical?

She has a life long gender dysphoria and had to look at those images and stroke her lady penis to console herself about the literal violence of being born in the wrong body.

Soubriquet · 14/07/2020 15:03

Women aren’t raped because of their sex?

What are they raped for then?

Whilst I will say that yes men have been raped, the majority are women.

I’m terrified now actually on how many times this exact same defense will be used by other criminals to get a lesser sentence or even sentenced to a women’s prison

Fanthorpe · 14/07/2020 15:16

Rape is about power, control and violence and the majority of victims are women, and ALL of the perpetrators are men, because only men have a penis. This cannot be allowed to change as the definition of the crime.

LillianBland · 14/07/2020 15:26

@Soubriquet

Women aren’t raped because of their sex?

What are they raped for then?

Whilst I will say that yes men have been raped, the majority are women.

I’m terrified now actually on how many times this exact same defense will be used by other criminals to get a lesser sentence or even sentenced to a women’s prison

I think this thread actually links in with the circumstances talked about in the aforementioned thread.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3966775-Change-org-says-its-discriminatory-to-say-that-women-are-raped-because-they-are-female

TalkingtoLangClegintheDark · 14/07/2020 15:26

Another one to join that ever-growing rogues‘ gallery of male sex offenders who “identify as women”.

Let’s just be clear that those who advocate for self ID believe this man should be able to go into open plan single sex swimming pool changing rooms where women and girls are undressed.

They are either in denial that this man would sit and stare at young girls’ genitalia while exposing his own, or they don’t care that he would. They are either in denial that he would very possibly take advantage of this opportunity to photograph or film these young girls, and then very possibly post the results on the internet for other paedophiles to enjoy, or they don’t care that he would. They are either in denial that he would actually assault one or more of these girls if this situation gave him that opportunity, or they don’t care that he would.

That makes them, in my book, either criminally stupid or downright evil. One or the other.

This is the inevitable result of Stonewall’s “acceptance without exception”. This is what Pink News, Google, all those MPs demanding reform to the GRA to allow self ID, and all the rest of the self ID advocates are lining up to support. Those virtue-filled people who appropriate the moral high ground for themselves and are doing their very best to make us the pariahs.

This is the world we’re living in now. It disgusts me and breaks my heart in equal measure.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 14/07/2020 15:28

Yes. Because Trans Women Are Women. It's just the truth, and collateral damage is acceptable.

PopperUppleton · 14/07/2020 15:37

@TalkingtoLangClegintheDark

Another one to join that ever-growing rogues‘ gallery of male sex offenders who “identify as women”.

Let’s just be clear that those who advocate for self ID believe this man should be able to go into open plan single sex swimming pool changing rooms where women and girls are undressed.

They are either in denial that this man would sit and stare at young girls’ genitalia while exposing his own, or they don’t care that he would. They are either in denial that he would very possibly take advantage of this opportunity to photograph or film these young girls, and then very possibly post the results on the internet for other paedophiles to enjoy, or they don’t care that he would. They are either in denial that he would actually assault one or more of these girls if this situation gave him that opportunity, or they don’t care that he would.

That makes them, in my book, either criminally stupid or downright evil. One or the other.

This is the inevitable result of Stonewall’s “acceptance without exception”. This is what Pink News, Google, all those MPs demanding reform to the GRA to allow self ID, and all the rest of the self ID advocates are lining up to support. Those virtue-filled people who appropriate the moral high ground for themselves and are doing their very best to make us the pariahs.

This is the world we’re living in now. It disgusts me and breaks my heart in equal measure.

Yes, THIS! Well said Talking.
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THESE ARE NOT OUR CRIMES!*

scotsheather · 14/07/2020 15:47

I assume they have the wrong picture in the article which is of a man. Disgusting crime whoever does it.

scotsheather · 14/07/2020 15:49

Let’s just be clear that those who advocate for self ID believe this man should be able to go into open plan single sex swimming pool changing rooms where women and girls are undressed.

He already can at Glasgow Life afaik. It was bad enough changing in mixed 'villages' with single cubicles.

SerenityNowwwww · 14/07/2020 15:57

What would the ‘normal’ sentence be for this type of thing?

Kantastic · 14/07/2020 16:09

This will be recorded as a female crime. Why do females once again have to take responsibility for a man's crime. Why not at least have 2 other categories, trans woman and trans man?

Ooh... I know, because then people would start comparing crime trans rates with "cis" crime rates. And that would raise a lot of extremely awkward questions that TRAs do not want to have asked, let alone answered.

FlamedToACrisp · 14/07/2020 16:32

At the very least, the defence of gender dysphoria should be completely rejected if the accused has never mentioned it or attempted to 'live as a woman' until the idea of being put in prison with a load of angry blokes seemed likely.

Fanthorpe · 14/07/2020 16:36

It appears from the article that the defendant was tried as Anthony Scales though, which would mean the crime would be recorded as a male offence.

TalkingtoLangClegintheDark · 14/07/2020 17:01

@scotsheather

Let’s just be clear that those who advocate for self ID believe this man should be able to go into open plan single sex swimming pool changing rooms where women and girls are undressed.

He already can at Glasgow Life afaik. It was bad enough changing in mixed 'villages' with single cubicles.

I read about that at the time.

Scotland seems to be modelling itself on Canada, in this respect.

Awful.

TalkingtoLangClegintheDark · 14/07/2020 17:01

@Fanthorpe

It appears from the article that the defendant was tried as Anthony Scales though, which would mean the crime would be recorded as a male offence.
Let’s hope so.
Ereshkigalangcleg · 14/07/2020 17:07

Ooh... I know, because then people would start comparing crime trans rates with "cis" crime rates. And that would raise a lot of extremely awkward questions that TRAs do not want to have asked, let alone answered.

Excellent point, that I'd never considered like that.

LillianBland · 14/07/2020 17:07

@Fanthorpe

It appears from the article that the defendant was tried as Anthony Scales though, which would mean the crime would be recorded as a male offence.
I wouldn’t bank on it. Even the paper was calling him ‘her’, the whole way through. After all they mustn’t upset the poor pervert, or they’ll have the wrath of the TRAs on them.

I trust we’re permitted to correctly sex this person, since he committed a sex crime towards females, MNHQ, as we are with other sex offenders?

On the other hand, this person IS a transwoman, because they identify as such and that’s how it works, so I’ll probably get reported by those who wish to support the paedophile.

stillathing · 14/07/2020 17:08

This will be recorded as a female crime. Thereby contributing to skewed statistics that MRAs and lib fems alike will use to throw back at us with a "look women do it too; therefore sex isn't real/you don't deserve boundaries".

BacklashStarts · 14/07/2020 17:11

A suspended sentence? A fucking suspended sentence? Jesus Christ! I mrs you go to prison for years for fraud and other crimes that effect money but being a peado

Gah!!

truthisarevolutionaryact · 14/07/2020 17:17

@Kantastic

This will be recorded as a female crime. Why do females once again have to take responsibility for a man's crime. Why not at least have 2 other categories, trans woman and trans man?

Ooh... I know, because then people would start comparing crime trans rates with "cis" crime rates. And that would raise a lot of extremely awkward questions that TRAs do not want to have asked, let alone answered.

Worth repeating!
SerenityNowwwww · 14/07/2020 17:25

Why not record crimes by sex - there's a novel idea!

AnIckabog · 14/07/2020 17:37

Two in one day! There's a news story about Julie/Jon Marshall in the Blackpool Gazette today. Same crime.
It's reported on Yahoo's homepage as well, with absolutely no mention of 'transwoman' just with the headline 'Woman convicted etc etc'
I can't work out how to share the link on here from my phone but perhaps someone else could?

slipperywhensparticus · 14/07/2020 17:41

I've known pedophiles get suspended sentence violate the conditions and get another suspended sentence and violate it again for ANOTHER SUSPENDED SENTENCE

Male privilege

Fanthorpe · 14/07/2020 17:44

No photo of Julie either.

Looking at csa images while in hospital! Dear god. Wonder which prison?