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Paedophile with 1500 abuse images now identifies as a woman

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QuarantineDream · 14/07/2020 13:48

Also claims it was "their" gender dysphoria that caused them to download the images of pre-pubescent girls being abused.

Judge disagreed with that assessment - said Anthony had clearly gotten sexual gratification from the images - and yet STILL handed down a 2-year suspended sentence... Isn't that the definition of male privilege?

Female pronouns throughout the article.

www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/news/derby-news/derby-pervert-im-paedophile-123-4320791

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LillianBland · 14/07/2020 17:54

@AnIckabog

Two in one day! There's a news story about Julie/Jon Marshall in the Blackpool Gazette today. Same crime. It's reported on Yahoo's homepage as well, with absolutely no mention of 'transwoman' just with the headline 'Woman convicted etc etc' I can't work out how to share the link on here from my phone but perhaps someone else could?
They’re being told that they’re talking bollocks on their Twitter, when they describe that person as a woman. The light is shining on every corner of the woke world.

I do wonder, sometimes if the the papers know exactly what they’re doing, when they say ‘she’ to describe male bodied people who identify as trans, that commit these horrible crimes. Is it their way of making people sit up and take notice?

HaveaStock · 14/07/2020 17:59

I’m sure the likes of Paris Lees and Juno Dawson even mutter under their breaths when they see reports like that - surely? Can they really not see where we’re coming from with this - this isn’t some ‘hypothetical’ that you can deal with by saying ‘well Rose West was a woman!’ Can you? No. Just no.

ScrimpshawTheSecond · 14/07/2020 18:09

Newspapers have to record pronouns as the paedophile identifies, don't they?

LillianBland · 14/07/2020 18:09

@HaveaStock

I’m sure the likes of Paris Lees and Juno Dawson even mutter under their breaths when they see reports like that - surely? Can they really not see where we’re coming from with this - this isn’t some ‘hypothetical’ that you can deal with by saying ‘well Rose West was a woman!’ Can you? No. Just no.
Are you assuming that they have sympathy for females? I have yet to see evidence of that.
ScrimpshawTheSecond · 14/07/2020 18:10

As do the police. As I understand it they have no choice in the matter. Pronouns are to be respected. These things are embedded in policy.

Clymene · 14/07/2020 18:14

In the last few months, we have had John Robert Marshall, Anthony Scales and Joshua Harvey, all male, all identifying as women, all paedophiles, all reported on in the press as women.

These. Are. Not. Our. Crimes.

The police have become weirdly shy of providing photos of men who are claiming to be women in these instances. What a headfuck if you were some of the children approached by 'a woman' at the Remembrance Day parade which is what harvey did immediately after his release from prison following conviction for grooming.

Here is what Harvey looks like.

Paedophile with 1500 abuse images now identifies as a woman
Clymene · 14/07/2020 18:15

No, they don't scrimshaw. This is another 'stonewall' law which is being challenged via IPSO.

ScrimpshawTheSecond · 14/07/2020 18:21

Ah, thanks for the clarification, Clymene. So newspapers are free to use whichever pronouns they see fit? And police can record crimes according to sex?

DandyMandy · 14/07/2020 18:27

@LillianBland

I’m just waiting for the poster who said on another thread that women aren’t raped, because of their sex, to pop up and explain why this pervert’s choice of video involved the abuse of little girls. Coincidence?

The very very tiny comfort in this story, is the fact that the judge didn’t believe his excuses for watching the rapes of young girls. Isn’t it ridiculous that I’m actually surprised at that?

The person you're talking about is all about men and said I was a "victim blamer" because apparently talking about the fact that girls are doing better in school than boys is victim blaming now. Complete madness and you'll give yourself a headache trying to understand the mindset of such a person.
calllaaalllaaammma · 14/07/2020 18:54

This article from the Star from July last year doesn't even mention the defendant is a transwoman or show a photograph, they committed a similar crime.

www.thestar.co.uk/news/crime/sheffield-woman-found-over-1000-indecent-images-children-hauled-court-477960

Their strapline is The Star news you can trust since 1887.

LillianBland · 14/07/2020 18:59

Complete madness and you'll give yourself a headache trying to understand the mindset of such a person.

That’s what they bank on and then they disappear off the thread when people point out how incoherent their argument is. It’s all bluff and blunder.

Their strapline is The Star news you can trust since 1887.

Considering how women were treated in 1887 and onwards, that’s hardly worth boasting about. 😁

Clymene · 14/07/2020 19:14

scrimpshaw

Courts are different from newspaper reports and I'm not sure of the guidance for court. But IPSO guidance is clear - you don't mention it unless it is relevant to the story. https://www.ipso.co.uk/member-publishers/guidance-for-journalists-and-editors/transgender-guidance/

I think the fact that these are men is highly relevant to the story. It's an absolute distortion of truth for the media to report these crimes as committed by women. This BBC article is an absolute disgrace:

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-53410019?at_campaign=64&at_medium=custom7&at_custom4=10F70EC0-C5F9-11EA-AE4D-25A8923C408C&at_custom3=Regional+BBC+North+West&at_custom2=twitter&at_custom1=link

Clymene · 14/07/2020 19:15

God no idea what that mess of a link was. Try this: www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-53410019

DryHeave · 14/07/2020 19:42

This is all beginning to feel a bit like the “grooming scandals”.

Siablue · 14/07/2020 19:53

@HaveaStock

I’m sure the likes of Paris Lees and Juno Dawson even mutter under their breaths when they see reports like that - surely? Can they really not see where we’re coming from with this - this isn’t some ‘hypothetical’ that you can deal with by saying ‘well Rose West was a woman!’ Can you? No. Just no.
I did like Paris Lees then I read on another thread that she had been to prison. I found this article that she had written defending Ian Huntley ( sorry I really can’t bring myself to call him Lianne). I hope I don’t get banned from Mumsnet. www.google.co.uk/amp/s/inews.co.uk/opinion/paris-lees-transgender-prisoners-isnt-time-talked-facts-54181/amp
ScrimpshawTheSecond · 14/07/2020 19:59

Ta, Clymene, appreciate it.

Clymene · 14/07/2020 20:16

Yvw.

I think it's utterly shit that IPSO are putting the gratification of convicted paedophiles (and lets not kid ourselves that they won'tbe getting a kick out of compelled pronouns) above the victims of those crimes. And above women who now appear to be - were you to believe what you read in the press - almost as likely to stack up thousands of child abuse images as men are.

I'm fucking raging

Fanthorpe · 14/07/2020 20:21

Frances Crook from the Howard League tweeted a link to the case and said ‘This case illustrates how it is important to recognise sex, not gender. This person downloading 80,000 abusive pictures of children will be classified as a crime by a woman, inflating the apparent sex offending by women’

Fanthorpe · 14/07/2020 20:23

Then got several people asking how can she be so transphobic. Centring the perpetrator of the crime as the victim. FGS.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 14/07/2020 20:29

Good on Frances Crook though! Thanks

Ereshkigalangcleg · 14/07/2020 20:31

I think to anyone who isn't a genderist, it's enlightening to see how deranged these people often are. They really have no idea how they come across.

truthisarevolutionaryact · 14/07/2020 20:36

I note that "Jenny" was accessing sexual images of child abuse from their hospital bed. Given the appalling NHS guidelines that will no doubt be from a women's hospital ward. Those poor women having to share a ward, bathrooms and toilets with a paedophile. Angry

QuarantineDream · 14/07/2020 21:47

@Clymene

Yvw.

I think it's utterly shit that IPSO are putting the gratification of convicted paedophiles (and lets not kid ourselves that they won'tbe getting a kick out of compelled pronouns) above the victims of those crimes. And above women who now appear to be - were you to believe what you read in the press - almost as likely to stack up thousands of child abuse images as men are.

I'm fucking raging

Yup.

Sorry for not posting more on this thread I've just been burning with rage for most of the afternoon.

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marioncole · 14/07/2020 22:06

I thought you were all talking about this story, but I've realised there are two similar stories on the same day:

www.lancs.live/news/lancashire-news/blackpool-woman-accessed-sick-child-18593766

Imnobody4 · 14/07/2020 22:16

And another case.
www.lancs.live/news/lancashire-news/blackpool-woman-accessed-sick-child-18593766

A sex offender who accessed sick child abuse images from her hospital bed has been jailed for nine months.

Julie Marshall, 56, was recovering from a heart attack when she used the hospital wifi to access indecent images of children in August 2017.

Judge Newell added: “We have made what arrangements we can with regard to where Miss Marshall will go for now.

"The authorities are aware of the situation and protective measures will take place in the short term.

“In the long term, allocation is a matter for the Home Office and the Prison Service.”

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