Eric Joyce pleads guilty to offence of making indecent image of child

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Looks like he might go to jail.

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/jul/07/ex-labour-mp-eric-joyce-faces-jail-after-admitting-child-abuse-image-offence

I'm weirdly fascinated by IK. She is so stubbornly opinionated and can have a very strong opinion on almost anything - long hair on older women, women who put ice in their wine, dogs' names. I guess it goes with the territory of being a columnist but it feels exhausting to opine on such irrelevant things.

She's also a strange mixture of arrogance and deep insecurity. The always-being-right stuff about everything she does like moving to the country and using Botox. But also the fact that she has Botox, can't seem to manage her weight in a way that she finds satisfactory and hair extensions. Who the f has hair extensions? To me that seems so high maintenance. Generally being old (I'm the same age as she is) feels like a blessed relief from such self consciousness and as consequence I no longer worry about my weight and hair thickness.

I think this insecurity means she can't be single hence marrying a gay man, bouncing straight off to be someone else and then Eric Joyce. I've seen her write stuff about how she finds it so easy to attract men in a way that I'd find adolescent in a real adolescent.

Oh god, I am way too invested...

There was a thread on AIBU I think. It was pulled. Heaven forbid women should talk about sex offenders or maybe heaven forbid women should talk about sex offenders whose partners are media darlings.

Agree lots

The answer to everything is this diet. Oh and it’s having this attitude. And being a cosmopolitan Londoner with a chichi kitchen. But one must have this particular view about disability. Oh and race because she is mixed race and has been made to feel excluded because of it ... And this particular view about children. And this particular view about relationships. No it’s moving to the country. This is essential. And it is imperative to have a dog. And suddenly bang on about dogs. And write books about dogs. Anyone who doesn’t massively invest in dogs IS WRONG (see also Caitlin Moran).

I remember she wrote once about how anyone who was fat had only themselves to blame. Because her diet had worked so well until it didn’t. And relationships work like this - perfectly. Until they don’t.

It must be exhausting.

Oh you've expressed my thoughts exactly bininterested. She's always an expert after five minutes, she's done the dog book and I await the gardening one, she did a shopping book closely followed by a thrift book. Must piss off the real experts.

She's an example of living and dying by the sword, the sword in this case being media/social media. In some ways it must be nice to get all that affirmation from thousands of Twitter followers but it also means you're all the more exposed when something horrible happens. I genuinely feel sorry for her as I do all women attached to gruesome men. But not so sorry as I do for children being abused.

I like IK, but even if I didn’t, the focus should be on Eric Joyce here, as he is the one guilty of this offence.

Does anyone know if they are still together given she has a daughter under 18 and he's on the sex offenders list.

EwwSprouts My thoughts exactly.
And with IK such a media darling, no wonder the media are keeping quiet about this one.

I don’t think this thread should be mostly about her either (though I obviously hope they are not still together for her sake, but who knows) but he sounds absolutely beyond vile. The Mail covered his history in detail.

www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-8499753/ANDREW-PIERCE-final-shame-violent-ex-major-bragged-touch-Im-MP.html

According to a friend of hers the case was sub-judice, so the nationals couldn’t do anything until yesterday.

You're absolutely right that the focus should be on him and I hope it is - he's clearly vile.

It's just that I'm fascinated by her and I'm not by him. Apologies for any derail.

I’ve always liked her writing but this has turned me right off her. I cannot for the life of me understand why she would stand by this man. He’s downright horrible.

Attack the man ffs. He’s the Pedo, not her.

Fanthorpe - yes, the case would have been subjudice, as are all criminal cases until trial, but the point people are making is that there has been fairly minimal coverage of yesterday's case. It might be because he pleaded guilty and there was no trial to report. I still think that the coverage was more subdued than might have been expected.

Oh I agree, I think it’s amazing on the face of it, but given that his partners stepfather is who he is I’d say it’s not amazing at all.

@lady69

Attack the man ffs. He’s the Pedo, not her.

Of course. But people have questioned whether her position and contacts, most especially her stepfather, Andrew Knight, Chair of Times Newspapers, have led to deliberately muted reporting of Eric Joyce’s extreme CSE crime.

She also posted a series of minimising, jokey tweets referencing this case. She’s since deleted them, but it was pretty appalling.

But yes, my main concern is that there has been so little attention paid to Eric Joyce’s appalling crime. For a man so well-connected to the UK media to admit to searching for child sexual abuse and downloading such extreme footage - and for this to be given such relatively little attention - is alarming. Add the realisation that this man ridiculed an MSP who was standing up for women’s safety in single-sex toilets, and claimed that GC concerns are “dog whistling” and it’s an appalling and very telling situation.

@Fanthorpe

Oh I see, it was via a spam email, which is kind of what I was expecting him to say.

It’s bonkers that anyone thinks this is a reasonable excuse, isn’t it?

A ordinary human being who stumbles across images of sexual abuse of a child via a spam email would go straight to the police, wouldn’t they?

Well. He seems delightful.

I had no idea India Knight was so well connected. I did wonder as she seems relatively talent free.

Indeed DuDuDu.

@Destroyedpeople

I had no idea India Knight was so well connected. I did wonder as she seems relatively talent free.

I didn't realise boo high up at The Times her stepfather was. It all makes sense now.

Interesting and rather sad fact: when India was born her mother was 17 and her birth father was 37.

how, not boo.

I don’t want to derail, but do people really get sent images like this via spam ?!?

I guess it's possible. I'm female & search sites like National Trust & Boden but still offers for penis enhancers appear as spam. But one it's spam & two the subject line usually gives a clue so I don't open it. If I did open something horrific I would report it. He clearly didn't because there seems to be a range of years in the reports.