Batten down the hatches.....

[Gingernaut]

Now r/GenderCritical has gone, Helen from Mermaids wants to know which is the most transphobic

Not sure who's going to be targetted next, but MN is winning.

[Vodkacranberryplease]

Thanks campervsn! I googled it but the shitty formatting and dull as fuck rubbish had me nodding off. I think you would need to know what you were looking at. But it's all so batshit I'm not sure I do

[MrsNoah2020]

@HH160bpm

It will be immensely difficult not to take the bait that will be thrown.

Agree. Any new poster who posts anything transphobic must be met with a chorus of disapproval. They will be doing it in the hope of getting proof we agree, so that they can screen shot.

They will probably work together, so we also need to comment when posters are new (if transphobic) and report unpleasant posts quickly to MNHQ. The best way of spoiling their fun is rapid deletion. The next best way is to make it clear that we disagree with them and are on to them.

[loveyouradvice]

Well..... I'm getting ready for the onslaught....

I think our key role is enabling Mumsnet HQ to keep strong - they have so far and I can't see that changing ESPECIALLY now that J K Rowling has stood up for women and so many things are beginning to change

Hurrah and thank you Mumsnet for being here for us... you may not have been as robust as many of us had hoped BUT YOU ARE HERE and we love that you are here, enabling WOMEN to talk to WOMEN and be HEARD

[BewaretheIckabog]

Just arrived on another thread!

[wellbehavedwomen]

MNHQ have been coping with AIBU for more than a decade. They're battlehardened when it comes to vicious online conflict. The real issue will be the economics of it all, with the pandemic. Given how important MN is in allowing open and honest debate on this issue, and to all sides, if people can afford it then a monthly sub would help. They have to pay their overheads, after all, and while I appreciate people don't always like their rules, personally I think it's fair enough to try to balance what each side feels is truly offensive.

We have freedom of speech here, and it takes integrity, given they've lost advertisers for it, and have had to divert a lot of staff to moderate this section as well. Nothing in it for them other than a genuine belief that women deserve a place at the table, too.

[BigBadVoodooHat]

No sites that have mainly male members?

Strange, isn’t it? I mean, there’s this, for a start:
www.thecoli.com/threads/jk-rowling-got-these-trehs-in-they-feelings-again.785351/

I wonder why she’s not tackling that?

[A kiss for Mimmymummy 😘 . She’s very keen on me 🤣]

[MrsNoah2020]

As I have said many times, I would happily support MN financially, if they would let do so without revealing personal details. With their record on data security, any GC woman who trusts MN with her personal data is asking to be doxed.

[DuDuDuLangaLangaBingBong]

The Datalounge forum is a bit of an eye opener too.

It’s not safe for work tho, you have been warned (unless you work at a gay chaps’ strip joint 😂)

[ScrimpshawTheSecond]

those frogs that give birth out of their backs.

Those frogs are really not something that I think should have evolved. I know it's unfair to say it and all nature is marvellous but bloody hell.

[BigBadVoodooHat]

The Datalounge forum is a bit of an eye opener too.

As I recall, they were extremely vociferous about a (vaginally intact) transman who attempted to enter gay saunas and expected to have sexual experiences with gay men.

Funnily enough, there was no comparable TRA outcry about the transphobia of gay men not willingly engaging with ‘man-vagina’. It’s only gay women who are required to engage with ‘lady-dick’

[averysuitablegirl]

MrsNoah2020 me too.

I wish they'd just do a 'donate' button (like every other site seems to...). Was a reason given as to why it's subscription with deets only?

[prolefeed]

Oh I luffs Helen. If you have literally made a career out of your child’s dysphoria and subsequent transition, you can’t allow any discussion on the ethics of the treatment of childhood dysphoria. You can’t allow anything other than affirmation that you did the right thing. Allowing discussion would quite literally disintegrate the glue of your own certainty and you’d have to consider the liability of your own actions.
It’s understandable she’s a bit.... single-minded. How many fingers?
And all the good little (thought police) PC Gul’s run out to check our thinking. It’s important to have WYP on speed dial.
She’s really ramping it up though. The last couple of weeks must have meant hours poring over the map in the campaign room.
(Not really. Now they disappeared glinner there is only mn left on the ‘to do’ list).

[HH160bpm]

Jeepers. It’s like a handbook of avoiding responsibility.

Can anyone think of examples of people saying “only joking”, “ it was meant to be funny” ? Every time I’ve heard it it was from someone who had their dubious intent questioned who then promptly leapt to the next move of DARVO.

[morethanafortnight]

@Beatrixpotterspencil

Is Mumsnet transphobic?
Fill me in I’m behind.

There's a huge number of people on MN, with a wide variety of views. Most don't even read, let alone post on threads about either trans or feminist issues.

The ones that do... well, some shout louder than others, shall we say? Some have balanced views, others don't.

'Mumsnet' in itself is not transphobic, no.

[prolefeed]

Transphobia is deleted. Mumsnet does not allow transphobia.

[Kokeshi123]

I became a member in part because I am deeply appreciative of the role MN has played, in the face of attacks and insults. I think when the history of this whole farce is eventually written, MN will be discussed as one of the big players which enabled the pushback against this insanity. I agree however that MN needs to offer an anonymous donation option as well, for those not OK with sharing details. Has this been raised on the MN Stuff section?

[WeetabixBananaHipsterFFS]

It’s important to have WYP on speed dial.

[prolefeed]

Raise it again.

[TheProdigalKittensReturn]

Isn't Helen the one who took Miranda Yardley to court for transphobia and had her case dismissed as totally without merit?

[LemonadeAndDaisyChains]

Oh I luffs Helen

No you don't. As your following post clearly shows.
Sorry, but hate follows are just so to me

[HemulenHouse]

Just goes to show how much they hate women. So many of the comments from men re transwomen on twitter are disgusting and abusive but sure, it’s more transphobic to suggest that sex is fixed.

[TorkTorkBam]

Good news. Welcome newcomers. Please inspect the FWR threads thoroughly for hate speech, transphobia and mansplaining.

Yes mansplaining. You probably didn't come to a feminist board seeking Righteous Men Boys to educate your saggy old mummy brain but I rather suspect you will be greatly amused by the pompous ploppers and MNers reactions.

If it all gets too much go to Classics for a neutral ground laugh.

[prolefeed]

@LemonadeAndDaisyChains

Oh I luffs Helen

No you don't. As your following post clearly shows.
Sorry, but hate follows are just so to me

‘Hate follows’ - what dat? I don’t really understand the sentence, sorry. 🤷‍♀️
Luffs in an ironic sense, obviously. I luffs Helen like she luffs transwomen. Though maybe just transwomen like Miranda.
But never mind that. What’s a ‘hate follow’?
Oh never mind. I urban dictionaried it.
God, I wouldn’t waste my time ‘hate-following’ the woman she’s ubiquitous!
And rather ironically, the time she spends on mn would be a more accurate use of the term 😂

[LemonadeAndDaisyChains]

You certainly seem to know a hell of a lot about this person you profess to luff though, that seems a bit next level?

[NonnyMouse1337]

we’re the granddaughters of the witches your ancestors couldn’t burn

I like that.