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Allison Bailey to sue Stonewall

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OhHolyJesus · 27/06/2020 08:20

There is a crowdfunder so I won't share the link but here a part of the text. It's long but brilliant and this isn't the half of it. Off to find my wallet...

The new trans activism: all scrutiny and critical voices labelled ‘transphobic’

In early 2018, when I first heard that plans were underway to make the lives of trans people easier, my reaction was that this was a good thing and I did not give it a second thought. I kept coming across the term ‘TERF’ but ignored it. I thought that bigots were simply being called out.

Then one day I clicked on a link: terfisaslur.com where someone had collated the online abuse that was being directed at women who I realised had entirely valid concerns and questions about the wisdom of replacing sex with gender.
I learnt that the new trans activism wants to smash the distinctions between men and women; replacing sex with notions of gender identity; making sexual difference a matter of self identification; and demands that any and every man that wishes to identify as a woman must be allowed to do so.
I learnt that the new trans activism is focusing, inexplicably, on young children and declaring them ‘trans’; treating puberty as a disease to be blocked with powerful drugs; delivering our young people into the arms of a multi-million pound industry of big pharmaceutical companies and plastic surgeons.
I saw that the same males who would have society regard them as women, were quick to brandish knives, axes, baseball bats and nooses, as they threatened with rape women who questioned the wisdom of replacing sex with gender —TERFs.
I realised that the new trans activism operated a crude but effective system of punishment and reward: agree with every demand of the trans lobby and be safe; object and face vilification, abuse, boycott, character assassination and cancellation.
I was horrified (and terrified).
I wanted to look away, to pretend that I had not seen it; that it did not reveal the worst woman-hating, lesbian hating, misogyny that I have ever come across in my lifetime.
I did not look away and I urge others not to either. Thanks to brave women who have come before me, such as the late, great, Magdalen Berns, whose courage and no nonsense approach to calling out the new trans activism as the men’s rights movement it so clearly is, gave me courage.
I realised that I did not have to accept that any man can claim to be legally a woman, without having to undergo any hormone or surgical intervention, psychological evaluation or risk assessment.
I realised that it was okay and necessary to say that it is reckless and naive to think that men will only identify as women if they are stunning and brave and harmless: that the wicked, abusive, predatory, unwell and downright cantankerous will, by some miracle, refuse to take advantage of free and easy access to women, to their politics, safe spaces, sports, legal protections and identities.
I was shocked to discover that significant numbers of male sex offenders are permitted to identify as women and nothing is being done to stop them. In England and Wales, some 40 per cent or more of trans identified males in the prison population are men with convictions for sex offences, including rape and possession of the most serious indecent images of children. I read a steady stream of news reports from around the world of males who identify as women committing serious sex offences.
It is repugnant to me and wholly unacceptable, and frankly unbelievable, that the new trans activism demands that sex crimes committed by males who identify as women are recorded as having been committed by women; and that these males can demand to be referred to by female pronouns.
I discovered that women incarcerated in prison are left vulnerable to serious sexual assault and mental anguish, as males, including sex offenders, are locked up with them. The new trans activism demands that a man’s desire to identify as a woman is more important than the right of imprisoned women to safety and dignity. These women have no way to escape, no choice, they are locked up. I do not see how this is anything other than state facilitated abuse and mental torture.
Where there should have been discussion, investigation and inquiry, there has been the silencing of concerned and critical voices; not voices from the far right, but from women like me, who are of and from the progressive left.
Mantras have been chanted because the new trans activism is a movement that cannot bear scrutiny: TRANS WOMEN ARE WOMEN; TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS; TRANS PEOPLE ARE WHO THEY SAY THEY ARE; PROTECT OUR TRANS SIBLINGS, and so on, do nothing to engage with and address the serious concerns that exist about replacing sex with gender.
The new trans activists are joined by politicians, journalists, lawyers, writers, entire organisations, and assorted celebrities, in the chanting of these mantras to shut down debate, while others who are appalled at what they see happening are too afraid to speak out. It is cult like behaviour, it is Orwellian, and it has disgraced and shamed a generation.
Labelling all critical voices ‘transphobic’ is a cynical political ploy of the new trans activism. It must be resisted.

Surviving child sexual abuse: understanding that women and girls are oppressed because of their sex and not their gender identity
The man who sexually abused me as a 9 year old little girl; the man who targeted my single-parent mother; the man who told me that I could trust him whilst he slipped drugs into my orange squash to render me helpless as he sexually assaulted me, was tried and convicted of multiple sexual assaults against me in 2015, and sentenced to 10 years imprisonment. He was released from prison last month (May 2020) to serve out the rest of his sentence on licence.

I make this disclosure now because I feel compelled to stand in solidarity with other women with similar experiences of male physical and sexual violence. It is not weaponising trauma to say so, any more than recounting racist abuse is.

We must not allow men or women to bury, minimise and ignore the visceral reality of male violence. We must not allow the new trans activism to force survivors back into the closet; this would be an abuser’s charter.

It should be a cause of great alarm that the new trans activism takes such a regressive and shaming attitude to disclosures of abuse. This culture of denial and belittling has been the bedrock and the hallmark of every abuse scandal. It is a red flag that signals a safeguarding catastrophe in the making.
It is women like me whose lives have been torn apart and seriously blighted by wanton acts of male violence that know that men are often not who they say they are or claim to be.
I know that conflating sex with notions of gender identity will leave women with no legally enforceable boundaries against any man.

I know that if the new trans activism is not brought to heel, women will disappear as a political class.

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Xanthangum · 01/07/2020 16:43

That's the email that everyone who pledged before it got to £20k should have got when it hit £20k.

Janeaustensquill · 01/07/2020 16:44

Just had the email too.

twoHopes · 01/07/2020 16:44

Ok it's just left my account this minute. Do you think they're reading this thread?!

SulisMinerva · 01/07/2020 16:50

I’m not sure how CrowdJustice are going to be able to defend themselves as being impartial. A more blatant case of hypocrisy and taking sides would be hard to find.

Justice for everyone except black lesbians who are guilty of ‘wrong think’.

Imnobody4 · 01/07/2020 16:53

So if one of the women sexually assaulted by Karen White wanted to crowdfund to sue HMP they wouldn't accept 'cos makes transwomen look bad and that's tranphobic?

nauticant · 01/07/2020 16:54

Tell you what Allison Bailey should do: submit a request to Crowdfunder to set up a new crowd funder on CrowdJustice having the aim of suing CrowdJustice over their enormous fuck up.

boatyardblues · 01/07/2020 16:57

Just checked my online bank & my donation transaction has just shown up as pending.

CaveMum · 01/07/2020 16:59

Allison needs to submit a FOI request to CJ to force them to declare who has been complaining and whether they have had any contact with Stonewall about her fundraiser.

Roseburn · 01/07/2020 16:59

Grrrr...I now want to send her money so much

EveleftEden · 01/07/2020 17:00

This is so disturbing. This isn’t the gob shites on Twitter this is some one or people much much higher up the food chain who are able to do these things from behind a veil.

AbsintheFriends · 01/07/2020 17:01

It was the plot twist of CrowdJustice so actively supporting the person who has (if I've got this right) already been disciplined for bullying a feminist that made my jaw actually hit the floor.

So, a person whose behaviour has already been officially declared 'discriminatory, upsetting and offensive' is now having their fundraising campaign to get that judgement overturned (presumably by a judge who is fresh from the Stonewall re-education camp) proudly boosted by CrowdJustice. While Allison is smeared, shamed and censored.

Whoa. It seems we have actually arrived in the dystopian future.

SecretMillionaire · 01/07/2020 17:04

My donation is now in the pending transactions.

nauticant · 01/07/2020 17:06

It would have to be a Subject Access Request not a FOI (the latter are for public authorities). The last time I did a SAR broadly for the reasons you suggest CaveMum they only sent me my name, address, phone number, email address, and date of birth.

In the subsequent court case they realised a large amount of information including transcripts of telephone conversations.

OhHolyJesus · 01/07/2020 17:08

I'm fucking fuming.

I want to send her all my money.

Maybe this is it, the real tipping point.

God I'm so angry.

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WindyTown · 01/07/2020 17:09

Just seen this now. What an amazing woman Allison is. A true inspiration.

I’ve just read the update from Allison and the response from CrowdJustice left me with my jaw literally open. What in the actual fuck is wrong with them?

Does anyone know if we are still able to donate? I’m confused as the message on the CrowdJustice page says: Update from CrowdJustice Team, 9:06am, 28 June: That was fast! Even with limited content, Ms Bailey’s case page has hit its stretch target and is now closed for further donations.

However the “Pledge now“ button is still open at the bottom. Confused

TheWayOfTheWorld · 01/07/2020 17:13

I am hoping she gives us another way to donate - although I suppose the benefit with crowdfunding is the transparency over how much has been raised and by how many donors.

That transparency for Allison's fundraiser - demonstrating the speed of hitting the target and donor numbers - clearly spooked people.

TheWayOfTheWorld · 01/07/2020 17:16

Whereas the trans woman retweeted by CJ has raised £7k (against a target of £13k) from 343 pledges since the end of May. Where are all the TRAs eh?

prolefeed · 01/07/2020 17:21

Too busy bullying and silencing women to put their hands in their pockets. And bullying and silencing is free.

OvaHere · 01/07/2020 17:22

The email CJ have sent makes no sense. I immediately went into Allison's page to pledge again and it's closed. And yet the email specifically says it's open. I've replied asking them to correct the error.

I guess the very poor aesthetics and design are because the system isn't set up for them to manually fuck around with a crowdfunder once it's gone live. They've never done it before so this is why the automated stuff is out of kilter.

SarahTancredi · 01/07/2020 17:24

I just got the email too

Xanthangum · 01/07/2020 17:26

"Allison Bailey
@BluskyeAllison
In response to people asking me,
@CrowdJustice
have confirmed that the £60,050.00 pledged will be transferred to my solicitors’ client account imminently. All of it will be used for my legal fees. I do not receive a penny of it."

twitter.com/BluskyeAllison/status/1278344474398273536?s=20

NonnyMouse1337 · 01/07/2020 17:26

@nauticant

Tell you what Allison Bailey should do: submit a request to Crowdfunder to set up a new crowd funder on CrowdJustice having the aim of suing CrowdJustice over their enormous fuck up.
I would love to see the look on their faces when reviewing that submission. GrinGrin
Cascade220 · 01/07/2020 17:31

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Whatsnewpussyhat · 01/07/2020 17:34

I'd defo donate to that one too!

Datun · 01/07/2020 17:57

Yet another own goal. All this is going to do is horrify people who ordinarily would have absolutely zero interest in the trans issue.

Women are over half the population.

This just left the realm of feminism and transactivism, and entered mainstream censorship.