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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Allison Bailey to sue Stonewall

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OhHolyJesus · 27/06/2020 08:20

There is a crowdfunder so I won't share the link but here a part of the text. It's long but brilliant and this isn't the half of it. Off to find my wallet...

The new trans activism: all scrutiny and critical voices labelled ‘transphobic’

In early 2018, when I first heard that plans were underway to make the lives of trans people easier, my reaction was that this was a good thing and I did not give it a second thought. I kept coming across the term ‘TERF’ but ignored it. I thought that bigots were simply being called out.

Then one day I clicked on a link: terfisaslur.com where someone had collated the online abuse that was being directed at women who I realised had entirely valid concerns and questions about the wisdom of replacing sex with gender.
I learnt that the new trans activism wants to smash the distinctions between men and women; replacing sex with notions of gender identity; making sexual difference a matter of self identification; and demands that any and every man that wishes to identify as a woman must be allowed to do so.
I learnt that the new trans activism is focusing, inexplicably, on young children and declaring them ‘trans’; treating puberty as a disease to be blocked with powerful drugs; delivering our young people into the arms of a multi-million pound industry of big pharmaceutical companies and plastic surgeons.
I saw that the same males who would have society regard them as women, were quick to brandish knives, axes, baseball bats and nooses, as they threatened with rape women who questioned the wisdom of replacing sex with gender —TERFs.
I realised that the new trans activism operated a crude but effective system of punishment and reward: agree with every demand of the trans lobby and be safe; object and face vilification, abuse, boycott, character assassination and cancellation.
I was horrified (and terrified).
I wanted to look away, to pretend that I had not seen it; that it did not reveal the worst woman-hating, lesbian hating, misogyny that I have ever come across in my lifetime.
I did not look away and I urge others not to either. Thanks to brave women who have come before me, such as the late, great, Magdalen Berns, whose courage and no nonsense approach to calling out the new trans activism as the men’s rights movement it so clearly is, gave me courage.
I realised that I did not have to accept that any man can claim to be legally a woman, without having to undergo any hormone or surgical intervention, psychological evaluation or risk assessment.
I realised that it was okay and necessary to say that it is reckless and naive to think that men will only identify as women if they are stunning and brave and harmless: that the wicked, abusive, predatory, unwell and downright cantankerous will, by some miracle, refuse to take advantage of free and easy access to women, to their politics, safe spaces, sports, legal protections and identities.
I was shocked to discover that significant numbers of male sex offenders are permitted to identify as women and nothing is being done to stop them. In England and Wales, some 40 per cent or more of trans identified males in the prison population are men with convictions for sex offences, including rape and possession of the most serious indecent images of children. I read a steady stream of news reports from around the world of males who identify as women committing serious sex offences.
It is repugnant to me and wholly unacceptable, and frankly unbelievable, that the new trans activism demands that sex crimes committed by males who identify as women are recorded as having been committed by women; and that these males can demand to be referred to by female pronouns.
I discovered that women incarcerated in prison are left vulnerable to serious sexual assault and mental anguish, as males, including sex offenders, are locked up with them. The new trans activism demands that a man’s desire to identify as a woman is more important than the right of imprisoned women to safety and dignity. These women have no way to escape, no choice, they are locked up. I do not see how this is anything other than state facilitated abuse and mental torture.
Where there should have been discussion, investigation and inquiry, there has been the silencing of concerned and critical voices; not voices from the far right, but from women like me, who are of and from the progressive left.
Mantras have been chanted because the new trans activism is a movement that cannot bear scrutiny: TRANS WOMEN ARE WOMEN; TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS; TRANS PEOPLE ARE WHO THEY SAY THEY ARE; PROTECT OUR TRANS SIBLINGS, and so on, do nothing to engage with and address the serious concerns that exist about replacing sex with gender.
The new trans activists are joined by politicians, journalists, lawyers, writers, entire organisations, and assorted celebrities, in the chanting of these mantras to shut down debate, while others who are appalled at what they see happening are too afraid to speak out. It is cult like behaviour, it is Orwellian, and it has disgraced and shamed a generation.
Labelling all critical voices ‘transphobic’ is a cynical political ploy of the new trans activism. It must be resisted.

Surviving child sexual abuse: understanding that women and girls are oppressed because of their sex and not their gender identity
The man who sexually abused me as a 9 year old little girl; the man who targeted my single-parent mother; the man who told me that I could trust him whilst he slipped drugs into my orange squash to render me helpless as he sexually assaulted me, was tried and convicted of multiple sexual assaults against me in 2015, and sentenced to 10 years imprisonment. He was released from prison last month (May 2020) to serve out the rest of his sentence on licence.

I make this disclosure now because I feel compelled to stand in solidarity with other women with similar experiences of male physical and sexual violence. It is not weaponising trauma to say so, any more than recounting racist abuse is.

We must not allow men or women to bury, minimise and ignore the visceral reality of male violence. We must not allow the new trans activism to force survivors back into the closet; this would be an abuser’s charter.

It should be a cause of great alarm that the new trans activism takes such a regressive and shaming attitude to disclosures of abuse. This culture of denial and belittling has been the bedrock and the hallmark of every abuse scandal. It is a red flag that signals a safeguarding catastrophe in the making.
It is women like me whose lives have been torn apart and seriously blighted by wanton acts of male violence that know that men are often not who they say they are or claim to be.
I know that conflating sex with notions of gender identity will leave women with no legally enforceable boundaries against any man.

I know that if the new trans activism is not brought to heel, women will disappear as a political class.

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ScrimpshawTheSecond · 29/06/2020 14:40

Ah, is this a new tactic, then? Post shots of tweets at the size of a microfiche and claim it's all 'evidence' of hate. Actually literally illegible, but presume everyone will just nod and agree.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 29/06/2020 14:56

No bisexuals?

I don't know, I haven't asked them all what their sexuality is, Jan Hmm I just know there are lesbians and gay men. I know of at least one bisexual person working for them behind the scenes.

HillieBoliday · 29/06/2020 15:00

I gave to Maya and to Katie Alcock and left a message on CrowdJustice’s website stating that I was donating in lieu of being able to donate to Allison Bailey.

HillieBoliday · 29/06/2020 15:00

Or rather that I’d increased my donation because I couldn’t give to Allison Bailey.

Xenia · 29/06/2020 15:25

www.lawgazette.co.uk/news/barrister-raises-60k-to-sue-chambers-and-lgbt-charity-/5104809.article?utm_source=gazette_newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=NQ+pay+cuts+%7c+Firm+shut+over+dishonesty+suspicion+%7c+Global+power+struggle_06%2f29%2f2020 I suspect this news is posted above but it certainly seems unfair they take AB's crowd funding page down and keep up BLM for example when it seems to have no clear legal entity in the UK, no charitable status, no registered community interest page and in the UK wants to disband the police and prisons.

It would be better if crowd funding platforms tried to stay out of whether they agree or disagree with a particular cause and just be a neutral passive wall.

crumpet · 29/06/2020 15:43

Yes - which is what CrowdJustice said they were set up for. Unfortunately their actions, without proper explanation, suggest otherwise

thisonebreath · 29/06/2020 16:13

Has anyone had a reply from them yet?

MrsBodger · 29/06/2020 16:16

Nope.

Whatsnewpussyhat · 29/06/2020 17:19

No updates from Allison either.

Needmoresleep · 29/06/2020 17:51

I only got:

"You'll be notified here and by email"

signed "bot". No idea who "bot" is.

SophocIestheFox · 29/06/2020 20:22

No updates here either.

Spineless!

crumpet · 29/06/2020 20:53

They have gone very quiet, haven’t they

Vinosaurus · 29/06/2020 21:54

Still nothing here either

endofthelinefinally · 29/06/2020 22:10

I think it is sinister.

QuietlyWilting · 29/06/2020 22:14

I have no reply to my message to crowdjustice either

Vodkacranberryplease · 29/06/2020 22:18

@endofthelinefinally I agree. It's very very shady. Completely unethical, possibly illegal.

OhHolyJesus · 29/06/2020 22:35

Someone on FB said you can donate via TT but I can't see anything either. Maybe the overall fundraiser they have through their website would send on a contribution to AB?

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crumpet · 30/06/2020 07:58

Allison has been quiet too, which I’m hoping means that something is happening behind the scenes - will be very interesting to see the outcome.

EdgeOfACoin · 30/06/2020 08:00

I still haven't received anything either.

Needmoresleep · 30/06/2020 08:34

Absolute speculation, but I wonder whether the many large and powerful law firms who carry out pro-bono work for Stonewall and ally organisations, are playing their hands?

Otherwise it is simple. CJ are a small neutral organisation whose only role is to collect money on behalf of people who have a case that courts will hear, and to pay it onto lawyers. Even if they are deluged with emails etc from supporters of a non-statutory body the answer is clear. Let the courts decide. However it seems that someone is twisting their arms quite effectively.

Xanthangum · 30/06/2020 09:03

Either CJ took it down because they had failed to adequately approve the content, or as a knee jerk reaction to complaints.

They then compounded the error by shutting it down at the stretch target, in contradiction of their operating terms.

Either way they have endagered their own operation. The question remains, did they screw up themselves, or did someone do it for them?

And as this piece (thepostmillennial.com/crowdfunding-site-shuts-down-black-lesbian-lawyers-campaign-on-stonewall-anniversary) notes, "If the opposing party can prevent crowdfunding merely by lodging a complaint, the entire crowd justice model is fundamentally flawed. Access to justice can be denied by the administrators of the crowdfunding site, who become de facto judge and jury of the merits of a case which has yet to be heard."

If someone was keen to slow the momentum of support for Allison, they have manifestly failed.

Needmoresleep · 30/06/2020 10:21

thepostmillennial.com/crowdfunding-site-shuts-down-black-lesbian-lawyers-campaign-on-stonewall-anniversary

Women need to behave don't they? Allison is the wrong kind of black lesbian, Priti Patel is the wrong kind of female BAME politician.

The new Establishment is less tolerant than the old.

wrongsideofhistorymyarse · 30/06/2020 10:56

Still frozen.

SwimmingCait · 30/06/2020 12:29

I haven't had a reply to my question to CJ about why they are treating Allison differently either.

I would still like to contribute. I wondered about sending a cheque clearly labeled with what it is for, directly to Slater and Gordon?

endofthelinefinally · 30/06/2020 12:39

I am worried about what happens to my money.
I am very concerned about what this behaviour looks like.

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