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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Allison Bailey to sue Stonewall

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OhHolyJesus · 27/06/2020 08:20

There is a crowdfunder so I won't share the link but here a part of the text. It's long but brilliant and this isn't the half of it. Off to find my wallet...

The new trans activism: all scrutiny and critical voices labelled ‘transphobic’

In early 2018, when I first heard that plans were underway to make the lives of trans people easier, my reaction was that this was a good thing and I did not give it a second thought. I kept coming across the term ‘TERF’ but ignored it. I thought that bigots were simply being called out.

Then one day I clicked on a link: terfisaslur.com where someone had collated the online abuse that was being directed at women who I realised had entirely valid concerns and questions about the wisdom of replacing sex with gender.
I learnt that the new trans activism wants to smash the distinctions between men and women; replacing sex with notions of gender identity; making sexual difference a matter of self identification; and demands that any and every man that wishes to identify as a woman must be allowed to do so.
I learnt that the new trans activism is focusing, inexplicably, on young children and declaring them ‘trans’; treating puberty as a disease to be blocked with powerful drugs; delivering our young people into the arms of a multi-million pound industry of big pharmaceutical companies and plastic surgeons.
I saw that the same males who would have society regard them as women, were quick to brandish knives, axes, baseball bats and nooses, as they threatened with rape women who questioned the wisdom of replacing sex with gender —TERFs.
I realised that the new trans activism operated a crude but effective system of punishment and reward: agree with every demand of the trans lobby and be safe; object and face vilification, abuse, boycott, character assassination and cancellation.
I was horrified (and terrified).
I wanted to look away, to pretend that I had not seen it; that it did not reveal the worst woman-hating, lesbian hating, misogyny that I have ever come across in my lifetime.
I did not look away and I urge others not to either. Thanks to brave women who have come before me, such as the late, great, Magdalen Berns, whose courage and no nonsense approach to calling out the new trans activism as the men’s rights movement it so clearly is, gave me courage.
I realised that I did not have to accept that any man can claim to be legally a woman, without having to undergo any hormone or surgical intervention, psychological evaluation or risk assessment.
I realised that it was okay and necessary to say that it is reckless and naive to think that men will only identify as women if they are stunning and brave and harmless: that the wicked, abusive, predatory, unwell and downright cantankerous will, by some miracle, refuse to take advantage of free and easy access to women, to their politics, safe spaces, sports, legal protections and identities.
I was shocked to discover that significant numbers of male sex offenders are permitted to identify as women and nothing is being done to stop them. In England and Wales, some 40 per cent or more of trans identified males in the prison population are men with convictions for sex offences, including rape and possession of the most serious indecent images of children. I read a steady stream of news reports from around the world of males who identify as women committing serious sex offences.
It is repugnant to me and wholly unacceptable, and frankly unbelievable, that the new trans activism demands that sex crimes committed by males who identify as women are recorded as having been committed by women; and that these males can demand to be referred to by female pronouns.
I discovered that women incarcerated in prison are left vulnerable to serious sexual assault and mental anguish, as males, including sex offenders, are locked up with them. The new trans activism demands that a man’s desire to identify as a woman is more important than the right of imprisoned women to safety and dignity. These women have no way to escape, no choice, they are locked up. I do not see how this is anything other than state facilitated abuse and mental torture.
Where there should have been discussion, investigation and inquiry, there has been the silencing of concerned and critical voices; not voices from the far right, but from women like me, who are of and from the progressive left.
Mantras have been chanted because the new trans activism is a movement that cannot bear scrutiny: TRANS WOMEN ARE WOMEN; TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS; TRANS PEOPLE ARE WHO THEY SAY THEY ARE; PROTECT OUR TRANS SIBLINGS, and so on, do nothing to engage with and address the serious concerns that exist about replacing sex with gender.
The new trans activists are joined by politicians, journalists, lawyers, writers, entire organisations, and assorted celebrities, in the chanting of these mantras to shut down debate, while others who are appalled at what they see happening are too afraid to speak out. It is cult like behaviour, it is Orwellian, and it has disgraced and shamed a generation.
Labelling all critical voices ‘transphobic’ is a cynical political ploy of the new trans activism. It must be resisted.

Surviving child sexual abuse: understanding that women and girls are oppressed because of their sex and not their gender identity
The man who sexually abused me as a 9 year old little girl; the man who targeted my single-parent mother; the man who told me that I could trust him whilst he slipped drugs into my orange squash to render me helpless as he sexually assaulted me, was tried and convicted of multiple sexual assaults against me in 2015, and sentenced to 10 years imprisonment. He was released from prison last month (May 2020) to serve out the rest of his sentence on licence.

I make this disclosure now because I feel compelled to stand in solidarity with other women with similar experiences of male physical and sexual violence. It is not weaponising trauma to say so, any more than recounting racist abuse is.

We must not allow men or women to bury, minimise and ignore the visceral reality of male violence. We must not allow the new trans activism to force survivors back into the closet; this would be an abuser’s charter.

It should be a cause of great alarm that the new trans activism takes such a regressive and shaming attitude to disclosures of abuse. This culture of denial and belittling has been the bedrock and the hallmark of every abuse scandal. It is a red flag that signals a safeguarding catastrophe in the making.
It is women like me whose lives have been torn apart and seriously blighted by wanton acts of male violence that know that men are often not who they say they are or claim to be.
I know that conflating sex with notions of gender identity will leave women with no legally enforceable boundaries against any man.

I know that if the new trans activism is not brought to heel, women will disappear as a political class.

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Over600Ecalypts · 27/06/2020 18:00

Thankfully, the fake account has gone.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 27/06/2020 18:02

Hopefully it'll stay down long enough to got the media, then get reinstated.

loveyouradvice · 27/06/2020 18:43

She will be back on CrowdJustice - and that is as it should be

I am hoping that Crowd Justice will start to recognise they are getting the same sort of reports as they did for Transgender Trend and be quicker to reinstate - and to be ready for the next time somethings reported like this and just say No! They are going to realise they are being played....

PronounssheRa · 27/06/2020 18:47

I think this is going to hit the media.

Spectacular own goal chaps, well played

ThePurported · 27/06/2020 18:53

TT used Crowdfunder, not CrowdJustice.
It's an important distinction, because CJ is supposed to be less open to abuse than other crowdfunding sites.

QuietlyWilting · 27/06/2020 18:54

I do hope this hits the media, but lately things I am sure will be reported, are not mentioned at all.

Cascade220 · 27/06/2020 19:02

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rogdmum · 27/06/2020 19:30

@QuietlyWilting

I do hope this hits the media, but lately things I am sure will be reported, are not mentioned at all.
There was someone from the BBC a couple of hours ago tweeting CrowdJustice to ask them to check their PR email account as he wants to speak to them about it,
ThePurported · 27/06/2020 19:33

Not Ben Hunte, I hope? He has a very poor grasp of these issues. His claims about the Equality Act had to be edited several times.

Binterested · 27/06/2020 19:37

Neither Ben Hunte nor the BBC are reporting on this issue accurately or fairly.

TheABC · 27/06/2020 19:38

I can see the Times being interested in this....

ThePurported · 27/06/2020 19:41

True Binterested.
And yes, I'm sure the Times is on the case.

FaceOfASpink · 27/06/2020 19:44

I'll be doubling my donation if I can. Bastards

refusetobeasheep · 27/06/2020 19:45

ready to give as soon as we have a way too again

Needmoresleep · 27/06/2020 19:46

Ben Hunte seems to see his role as promoting societal change rather than providing impartial reporting.

He is a major reason why we decided not to renew our BBC license. If he can’t hear me or understand my concerns and report accordingly, his channel do not deserve my money. Allison can have it instead! (I also think there is bugger all chance of him hearing her or her concerns and reporting accordingly. So much for the BBC’s first LGBT+++ reporter.)

JemimaShore · 27/06/2020 19:48

I must say, the way this whole thing has panned out over the past few years - it's insane.

Who would have ever thought that there would come a day that a lesbian was suing Stonewall?

It's so mind boggling - I keep expecting someone to say "ha, it was all a wind up!" Like the end of Queeg in Red Dwarf.

rogdmum · 27/06/2020 19:59

Wasn’t Ben Hunte- can’t remember though, will see if I can find it

hellandhairnets · 27/06/2020 20:07

No, it's John McManus
@JohnMcM1 on Twitter. He has also commented in his tweets on the Baroness Nicholson R4 interview.

MindTheMinotaur · 27/06/2020 21:53

Going to hit the media you say? Going to make a huge splash you say? Fabulous. Bet Stonewall will be so happy about that....

EmpressLangClegSpartacus · 27/06/2020 21:55

I’m going to double my donation too. Just as soon as I have somewhere to send it.

hedgehogger1 · 27/06/2020 23:35

I'd donated. They best not keep the money if it doesn't go back up!

OliveKitteridgeAgain · 27/06/2020 23:44

They can't keep your money, that would be theft. I will donate to Allison when the funding page goes back up, or to the LGB Alliance page if they cave in to the witch finders. Wishing her all the best, she is one brave lady.

FloralBunting · 27/06/2020 23:47

Ben Hunte is a glorified YouTuber who was an unpaid BBC intern three years ago and has had a rather speedy rise to first LGBT+ correspondent. He's no more got journalistic credentials than a make up vlogger does.

Melroses · 27/06/2020 23:54

@FloralBunting

Ben Hunte is a glorified YouTuber who was an unpaid BBC intern three years ago and has had a rather speedy rise to first LGBT+ correspondent. He's no more got journalistic credentials than a make up vlogger does.
Credentials don't seem to be at the top of the list for anything to do with this ideology at all. You see it over and over again when you look at the people behind the organisations, especially the training ones.
FaceOfASpink · 28/06/2020 00:11

It's back up. The funding page

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