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Allison Bailey to sue Stonewall

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OhHolyJesus · 27/06/2020 08:20

There is a crowdfunder so I won't share the link but here a part of the text. It's long but brilliant and this isn't the half of it. Off to find my wallet...

The new trans activism: all scrutiny and critical voices labelled ‘transphobic’

In early 2018, when I first heard that plans were underway to make the lives of trans people easier, my reaction was that this was a good thing and I did not give it a second thought. I kept coming across the term ‘TERF’ but ignored it. I thought that bigots were simply being called out.

Then one day I clicked on a link: terfisaslur.com where someone had collated the online abuse that was being directed at women who I realised had entirely valid concerns and questions about the wisdom of replacing sex with gender.
I learnt that the new trans activism wants to smash the distinctions between men and women; replacing sex with notions of gender identity; making sexual difference a matter of self identification; and demands that any and every man that wishes to identify as a woman must be allowed to do so.
I learnt that the new trans activism is focusing, inexplicably, on young children and declaring them ‘trans’; treating puberty as a disease to be blocked with powerful drugs; delivering our young people into the arms of a multi-million pound industry of big pharmaceutical companies and plastic surgeons.
I saw that the same males who would have society regard them as women, were quick to brandish knives, axes, baseball bats and nooses, as they threatened with rape women who questioned the wisdom of replacing sex with gender —TERFs.
I realised that the new trans activism operated a crude but effective system of punishment and reward: agree with every demand of the trans lobby and be safe; object and face vilification, abuse, boycott, character assassination and cancellation.
I was horrified (and terrified).
I wanted to look away, to pretend that I had not seen it; that it did not reveal the worst woman-hating, lesbian hating, misogyny that I have ever come across in my lifetime.
I did not look away and I urge others not to either. Thanks to brave women who have come before me, such as the late, great, Magdalen Berns, whose courage and no nonsense approach to calling out the new trans activism as the men’s rights movement it so clearly is, gave me courage.
I realised that I did not have to accept that any man can claim to be legally a woman, without having to undergo any hormone or surgical intervention, psychological evaluation or risk assessment.
I realised that it was okay and necessary to say that it is reckless and naive to think that men will only identify as women if they are stunning and brave and harmless: that the wicked, abusive, predatory, unwell and downright cantankerous will, by some miracle, refuse to take advantage of free and easy access to women, to their politics, safe spaces, sports, legal protections and identities.
I was shocked to discover that significant numbers of male sex offenders are permitted to identify as women and nothing is being done to stop them. In England and Wales, some 40 per cent or more of trans identified males in the prison population are men with convictions for sex offences, including rape and possession of the most serious indecent images of children. I read a steady stream of news reports from around the world of males who identify as women committing serious sex offences.
It is repugnant to me and wholly unacceptable, and frankly unbelievable, that the new trans activism demands that sex crimes committed by males who identify as women are recorded as having been committed by women; and that these males can demand to be referred to by female pronouns.
I discovered that women incarcerated in prison are left vulnerable to serious sexual assault and mental anguish, as males, including sex offenders, are locked up with them. The new trans activism demands that a man’s desire to identify as a woman is more important than the right of imprisoned women to safety and dignity. These women have no way to escape, no choice, they are locked up. I do not see how this is anything other than state facilitated abuse and mental torture.
Where there should have been discussion, investigation and inquiry, there has been the silencing of concerned and critical voices; not voices from the far right, but from women like me, who are of and from the progressive left.
Mantras have been chanted because the new trans activism is a movement that cannot bear scrutiny: TRANS WOMEN ARE WOMEN; TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS; TRANS PEOPLE ARE WHO THEY SAY THEY ARE; PROTECT OUR TRANS SIBLINGS, and so on, do nothing to engage with and address the serious concerns that exist about replacing sex with gender.
The new trans activists are joined by politicians, journalists, lawyers, writers, entire organisations, and assorted celebrities, in the chanting of these mantras to shut down debate, while others who are appalled at what they see happening are too afraid to speak out. It is cult like behaviour, it is Orwellian, and it has disgraced and shamed a generation.
Labelling all critical voices ‘transphobic’ is a cynical political ploy of the new trans activism. It must be resisted.

Surviving child sexual abuse: understanding that women and girls are oppressed because of their sex and not their gender identity
The man who sexually abused me as a 9 year old little girl; the man who targeted my single-parent mother; the man who told me that I could trust him whilst he slipped drugs into my orange squash to render me helpless as he sexually assaulted me, was tried and convicted of multiple sexual assaults against me in 2015, and sentenced to 10 years imprisonment. He was released from prison last month (May 2020) to serve out the rest of his sentence on licence.

I make this disclosure now because I feel compelled to stand in solidarity with other women with similar experiences of male physical and sexual violence. It is not weaponising trauma to say so, any more than recounting racist abuse is.

We must not allow men or women to bury, minimise and ignore the visceral reality of male violence. We must not allow the new trans activism to force survivors back into the closet; this would be an abuser’s charter.

It should be a cause of great alarm that the new trans activism takes such a regressive and shaming attitude to disclosures of abuse. This culture of denial and belittling has been the bedrock and the hallmark of every abuse scandal. It is a red flag that signals a safeguarding catastrophe in the making.
It is women like me whose lives have been torn apart and seriously blighted by wanton acts of male violence that know that men are often not who they say they are or claim to be.
I know that conflating sex with notions of gender identity will leave women with no legally enforceable boundaries against any man.

I know that if the new trans activism is not brought to heel, women will disappear as a political class.

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SirSamuelVimesBlackboardMonito · 27/06/2020 16:31

I will also be doubling my donation once this is reinstated.

Needmoresleep · 27/06/2020 16:38

Binterested, Sheldon Mills appointment is surely an example of the tangled web of interests between lobby groups like Stonewall and the Financial and Public Sectors.

A bank opts not to take part in Pride, or to hire Stonewall to carry out diversity training.

Are they sure that their Regulator, the FCA, will treat them with the same objectivity as a similar organisation with all the rainbow badges?

Or a bolshie woman employee steps out of line and criticises Stonewall. Stonewall complains, or encourages complaints, to her employer. What does the regulator do?

Aesopfable · 27/06/2020 16:41

Could Alison ask her solicitors to set up an account for money to be paid into rather than bothering with crowd justice? Some sort if simple trust where the money will be used for this purpose or passed onto another stated purpose if not needed?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 27/06/2020 16:52

I know, sorry. I was being wry. I should have used an emoji.

No worries Smile

Binterested · 27/06/2020 16:53

Yes I thought it a bit of a conflict as well. Former public servant here and we were always taught to be very careful when taking on charity work to stay on the right side of lobbying. Stonewall has bust through all the lines.

Needmoresleep · 27/06/2020 16:59

Potential conflicts of interest would become very acute if the FCA has any role in regulating CrowdJustice.

I don’t know if they have.

WanderinWomb · 27/06/2020 17:00

If needed I'll send money directly by bank transfer to support Allison's.
I too will double my donation.

These cancellers and misogynists are on a high after targeting Emma Nicholson then Glinner successfully.

Now Graham is off twitter they had lot of spare time since they aren't mob reporting him.

If crowd justice stop this fundraiser they will look very very very bad so am hopeful it will be up again.

Cascade220 · 27/06/2020 17:02

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Binterested · 27/06/2020 17:04

Can’t see a reference to the FCA on their site. If they are regulated it should be mentioned and I can’t see it so perhaps they are not. It looks like they don’t hold the money themselves but pass it to a case-nominated lawyer but it’s not clear when this happens - as the monies are pledged or when the target is reached. I have questions Hmm

Needmoresleep · 27/06/2020 17:07

Binterested....found it.

From the FCA website

*We also regulate payment services provided in connection with:

donation-based crowdfunding: people give money to enterprises or organisations they want to support*

www.fca.org.uk/consumers/crowdfunding

Binterested · 27/06/2020 17:11

Please note that Legl does not offer regulated investments through the platform. Therefore it is not authorised or regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority. As with all donation-based crowdfunding, there is no recourse to either the Financial Ombudsman Service or the Financial Services Compensation Scheme

Hmm.

prolefeed · 27/06/2020 17:13

Set my reminder for Monday to check if it’s back up and donate. I hope Janice Turner or James Kirkup get penning. More sunlight please.

Binterested · 27/06/2020 17:15

There does seem to be something out of kilter re the regulatory position. Maybe the FCA only deals with crowdfunding for organisations not individuals ? Either way the reason they are not regulated is not because they don’t offer regulated investments as they say in their disclaimers. That’s irrelevant to whether they need to be regulated.

Needmoresleep · 27/06/2020 17:16

I am too lockdown-lethargic to read the FCA attachments.

However my experience, from a different area, is that firms carrying out activities just beyond the remit of the FCA, are very careful not to attract FCA attention. Thus effectively their behaviour is influenced by the FCA.

Binterested · 27/06/2020 17:19

Yes one would imagine they took legal advice on not being regulated - being a legal crowdfunder and all. But they presumably still need to keep a weather eye on the regulatory landscape. And also not be discriminatory in the provision of their services - which this behaviour could well be.

MindTheMinotaur · 27/06/2020 17:24

Rightiio. I will double my donation even if I have to drive to London to give it to Allison.

PronounssheRa · 27/06/2020 17:32

It looks like someone has set up a Twitter account to mimic Allison's and is directing supporters to a PayPal account.

Be aware and report

mobile.twitter.com/BluskyeAllisom/status/1276914279992745986

Needmoresleep · 27/06/2020 17:34

If CrowdJustice do not reinstate, it might be worth a complaint to the FCA, based on the FCA’s website wording, and suggesting discriminatory behaviour because of Stonewall’s undue influence. (But cleverer, more lawyerly, language.)

My understanding is that the FCA is diligent in ticking woke boxes. They might squirm a little if put on the spot.

NotAssigned · 27/06/2020 17:39

Well if crowd justice have pulled this due to lobbying, it rather adds to Allison's arguments.

12boo · 27/06/2020 17:41

Ready to cough up

Brokenness · 27/06/2020 17:49

There is what looks to be a scam Twitter account, @BluskyeAllisom, touting for PayPal donations. Can someone who knows their way round Twitter or PayPal help?

highame · 27/06/2020 17:54

Spitting feathers....just no idea what to do. Any ideas or is it just wait and see?

EmpressLangClegSpartacus · 27/06/2020 17:56

@Brokenness

There is what looks to be a scam Twitter account, *@BluskyeAllisom*, touting for PayPal donations. Can someone who knows their way round Twitter or PayPal help?
I’ve just reported one of BlueSkyAllisom’s tweets for being from a fake account. I think the more of us who do that the better.
highame · 27/06/2020 17:56

Allisons twitter account is @BluskyeAllison not @BluskyeAllisom??

Brokenness · 27/06/2020 17:58

Seems to have gone now

Allison Bailey to sue Stonewall