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Would you vote Conservative at the next election?

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cheeseismydownfall · 23/06/2020 07:21

Obviously this question isn't really relevant if you vote Conservative anyway!

Over my 25-odd year voting history I have voted Lib Dem, Labour and Green. I consider myself left wing and would never have considered a Tory vote. But if the principle parties maintain their current positions on women's rights then for the first time ever I will consider a Conservative vote at the next election - not simply because this one issue trumps everything else (although I personally feel very strongly about it, education, health and the environment are still hugely important to me) but because I simply don't trust the critical thinking skills of any party who have allowed themselves to be so thoroughly hijacked by the trans rights agenda and attempt to silence dissenting voices.

Anyone else feel this way?

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Tianalia · 24/06/2020 09:50

I might do, depends how things work out with women's rights. I don't think labour would have done any better with the covid Pandemic. In the past I've always voted labour, but with the woke takeover I doubt I will again.

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hwwynd · 24/06/2020 10:31

No. Never.

I'd look at the alternatives, and I'm not a member of any particular political party.

I live in an impoverished area, women are suffering immensely and disproportionately under Tory economic policy.

Single parents are dropping out of their university courses like flies, BECAUSE of the way recent Tory introduced policies treat single parents finances.

A group of working single mothers have just finally won a big court case against the government (again Tory introduced policy), for a policy which lord justice underhill quoted

"That effect has a severely harmful impact, which they can do nothing to avoid, on very large numbers of vulnerable claimants.”

www.leighday.co.uk/News/Press-releases-2020/June-2020/Four-single-mums-win-Court-of-Appeal-universal-cre?fbclid=IwAR3Cdu-r2Df6i-YF-d6z1lP3i7R57sW8ZGRlKC3iTiozq6CVR2Lym-EpTGg

If you think it is not the Torie's very intention to throw disadvantaged and disabled women, your fellow women, under a bus, then you are very mistaken.

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BatShite · 24/06/2020 11:15

It depends on the state of things at the time really. I have never voted Tory, but I cannot say I wouldn't ever. Despite being long term disabled, so voting for them is kinda voting against my best interests. But many many things matter to me, and I cannot vote on the disability thing alone. Plus Labour were't exactly good when it came to disabilitues. I have more faith in Starmer than Corbyn..but that doesn't take much tbh!

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KenDodd · 24/06/2020 11:49

I won't vote for a party that won't allow dissent, and indeed seeks to expel those who voice it.

And you think the Tories under Johnson and Cummings do?
Have you not been paying attention? Not only have they expelled anyone who dares speak truth to power and filled the government with 'yes men' they even purged the civil service of any decanting voices.

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Aesopfable · 24/06/2020 21:28

@KenDodd

I won't vote for a party that won't allow dissent, and indeed seeks to expel those who voice it.

And you think the Tories under Johnson and Cummings do?
Have you not been paying attention? Not only have they expelled anyone who dares speak truth to power and filled the government with 'yes men' they even purged the civil service of any decanting voices.

Civil servants should be purged if they are showing partiality.

Has Johnson expelled people from the cabinet or from the party?
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tinytemper66 · 24/06/2020 21:37

Never!

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hellotoday27 · 24/06/2020 22:27

Possibly.
Spoilt my ballot paper in the last election as couldn't vote for labour, but couldn't vote for Boris either.
However, I quite like my local MP even if she is Tory so if she stays, I may vote for her. Such a Tory stronghold here makes no difference anyway.

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KenDodd · 25/06/2020 10:03

Civil servants should be purged if they are showing partiality.

They were purged for NOT showing partiality though, don't you remember expert reports being sent back to be rewritten because they weren't positive enough.

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Nonnymum · 26/06/2020 14:03

Civil servants should be purged if they are showing partiality.
Unfortunately some Ministers and SPADS won't allow the Civil Servants to be impartial. They won't accept any advice that doesn't back up what they want to do

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SisyphusAndTheRockOfUntidiness · 26/06/2020 14:08

@Puppymummy20

No. They have the blood of tens of thousands - and counting - on their hands for the way they’ve mismanaged the COVID crisis and we are among the worst-affected in the world. For that alone I could never vote for them. Add in the lies, Brexit, more lies, the complete contempt for the poor and vulnerable, lies, child poverty, the defunding of women’s refuges and councils being unable to provide basic essential services... no, never.

But I won’t vote Labour (former party member of long standing) or Lib Dem either until they sort themselves out and work out what a woman is. Or at least stop persecuting and expelling those who do know, and allow a proper debate.

This.
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SisyphusAndTheRockOfUntidiness · 26/06/2020 14:11

And I'll spoil my vote again rather than vote for any of the current crop of inadequate, nonsensical idiots who think that word salad is reasonable policy.

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SirVixofVixHall · 26/06/2020 14:48

I have never voted Tory but I think blaming them for 60,000 deaths is unfair. I can’t imagine Corbyn having done any better, he was saying her would refuse to adhere to Lockdown , if it came in place wasn’t he, just a few weeks earlier ? The threads on here a few weeks before lockdown were unbelievable, “all this fuss about flu” etc. I don’t think that people were at all accepting of stricter rules until Italy reached a disaster point and our deaths were climbing.

I am in Wales so I have the option of Plaid Cymru too, but I would vote Tory For the first time if they would revoke the GRA and support single sex spaces.

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Mollyollydolly · 26/06/2020 15:13

No. I'll vote Labour if Starmer really stamps out the regressive, identity politics and brings the party back to actually making a difference to peoples lives. Otherwise, I think I'd have to spoil my ballet. Feel like I'm very mainstream in my views, yet there's no-one I can vote for.

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StayEs · 26/06/2020 15:40

Never in a million years will I ever vote for tories.

I have felt very politically homeless for a while. However, I think I am warming a bit to keir starmer. Firstly, he is a human rights lawyer. Secondly, (I'm sorry I can't remember this exactly) but when the Labour Party wrote a declaration to say they would forever support the GRA and hope to push forward on extreme TRA demands, Keir Starmer was one of 4 that didn't sign that declaration. That fills me with hope that perhaps his knowledge of human rights law gives him more of an understanding of what is at stake for women and girls. A lot of them have no clue. Obviously we will have to wait and see.

Otherwise I'll be spoiling my ballot and stepping away from politics.

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DreadPirateLuna · 26/06/2020 15:59

It's not just about the 60000 already dead. It's about the people who will continue to die because we're getting mixed messages about the lockdown rules and we still don't have a proper track and trace system in place.

I refuse to believe this is inevitable. Germany, South Korea, Greece, so many other countries have shown it isn't. A more competent govt, even a Conservative govt not run by a floppy haired Muppet going through a mid-life crisis, could do better.

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Snorkers · 26/06/2020 19:21

Yes, have done last time and will do again. Will never vote for either left wing party again and have truly been converted to centre right politics. To do anything else will allow the country to fall into purity spiral hell led by radical and dangerous identifarian nincompoops.

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KaptainKaveman · 26/06/2020 19:26

What does 'identifarian' mean?

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