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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Superdrug person who menstruate

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Womanwhobleeds · 18/06/2020 16:36

Never posted on this board before, but nervous, but I’m furious.
Just bought some towels from Superdrug and the first line on the back of the packet is ‘A person who menstruates..’ I’m a woman ffs!
I shop in Superdrug all the time for their cruelty free stuff but no more!

Superdrug person who menstruate
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Eo91 · 18/06/2020 21:05

I'd need to be going to those shelves anyway, different packaging might be nice though.

In reality - sometimes you get weird looks as a guy getting sanitary products but people have more important things to do in their day than care about what I'm buying.

Thisismytimetoshine · 18/06/2020 21:05

@TheProdigalKittensReturn

Hm, I'd see it more like scented sanpro, This - I don't like it and don't want to use it, but as long as there's an unscented variety available I'm more or less OK with that, even though I'm not thrilled with the shaming undertones. It's when the unscented options are removed and we're offered scented or nothing that I get really annoyed.
Sure, I'd have no issue with it, I just wondered if Eo1 would genuinely find it helps?
Womanwhobleeds · 18/06/2020 21:06

Eo91 I actually said this in my email- to be trans inclusive they have missed trick at being one of the first brands to sell sanitary products for trans men.

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Thisismytimetoshine · 18/06/2020 21:06

Eo91, sorry

Thisismytimetoshine · 18/06/2020 21:07

@Eo91

I'd need to be going to those shelves anyway, different packaging might be nice though.

In reality - sometimes you get weird looks as a guy getting sanitary products but people have more important things to do in their day than care about what I'm buying.

Well, dh buys mine, so that could be you being sensitive.
Lilymossflower · 18/06/2020 21:07

It's WOMEN FFS

Anotherlovelybitofsquirrel · 18/06/2020 21:07

I’d much rather be referred to as a person than a woman. Then everyone is equal. Why does everything have to revolve around what’s between your legs?

Oh you're so cutting edge Hmm

I am not rude. When you actually have to support someone close to you through this and try and grasp that there are people out there telling them, even though if has no impact on their life whatsoever that they cannot choose to be identified how they like. Then you can come back to me and tell me I am rude.

You are rude and obviously a bit thick too.

You're all completely laughable! I hope that your children don't need you to get them through any identity issues that's for sure. Poor kids

Hmm funny how we are all laughable...

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 18/06/2020 21:08

If it wouldn't be useful to transmen then no point doing it, but if it would be then it does women no harm to offer it, unlike calling us menstruators.

Leflic · 18/06/2020 21:09

I noticed the use of “people” in relation to men and commented on here a few times.
Whenever there’s some horribly violent crime it will always be reported as a being committed by “a person” ( it’s always a man) until they release the name.
Interesting we can all be lumped together for the purposes of reporting on crime therefore making men sound better but also denied the fact that our sex is the only one to have periods. Therefore benefiting men again. There’s a theme here.

Blibbyblobby · 18/06/2020 21:09
  • As an aside - does anyone actually read their sanitary packets?! I just buy them and use them. I don't think I've ever sat there and read the label!*

Growing up in a house that had books in the loo, I managed to condition myself to require reading material to take a shit. Can’t crap unless I’m reading something.

Sadly not everyone has a well stocked library in the bog, so over the years I’ve read wide range of bathroom-related packaging. I’ve not read the Superdrug packet myself but it’s only a matter of time...

RufustheRowlingReindeer · 18/06/2020 21:11

Well, dh buys mine, so that could be you being sensitive

Same, but to be fair if he was getting weird looks my dh probably wouldn’t notice

My dad bought mine when i first started Grin but that was in the old days when you didn’t have much choice

RufustheRowlingReindeer · 18/06/2020 21:11

Apologies

Much choice of brands/types

stackthecats · 18/06/2020 21:12

yakkad thank you! I can't tell you how rare it is for someone on social media to say that. Points in your favour.

No, I don't think that people with gender dysphoria just have BDD. It is a debilitating mental health condition. I do think it's very noticeable that the treatment for BDD (for those who are even able to get treatment) is therapy (though often only CBT) and SSRIs. Nobody suggests that we provide cosmetic surgery to "affirm" it. And there is actually some evidence that BDD may be co-morbid in the increasingly high numbers of young women being referred for gender dysphoria. But where these young women might well be helped with good therapy to disentangle these problems, trans orthodoxy is not helping them because even suggesting it is considered transphobia. This is a terrible shame, and not helping young women with mental health conditions who might do better with another form of treatment.

I hope you are getting good support for BDD. It's my belief that the dramatic decline in the availability of talking therapies is doing society a great harm. If people are in distress now we must medicalise it or nothing. When actually they might be more in need of care and listening and emotional help.

stackthecats · 18/06/2020 21:13

Sorry yakkad thought you said you have BDD but I misread your post!

LemonadeAndDaisyChains · 18/06/2020 21:16

Growing up in a house that had books in the loo, I managed to condition myself to require reading material to take a shit. Can’t crap unless I’m reading something

OK, fair enough, can appreciate that - I'm also someone who needs something to read at all times, eg can't eat without reading something (cereal packet or whatever if nothing else) so can see where that's coming from!
Not on the bog though, it's about the only place I'm not reading Smile

RufustheRowlingReindeer · 18/06/2020 21:16

yakkad thank you! I can't tell you how rare it is for someone on social media to say that

It is, im glad it was just a misunderstanding

FlamingoAndJohn · 18/06/2020 21:16

@Eo91

Women, Transmen and Non-binary people. A bit wordy, but no one's being removed.

Or a brand could step up, take the risk and sell sanitary products marketed for Transgender people. If theres enough of us to kick up a fuss, theres enough of us to support a company willing to do it.

I think the women here wold support that wording too, @E091. I know I would.

A brand marketing at transmen would be amazing but I wonder if there simply isn’t the money in it?

RufustheRowlingReindeer · 18/06/2020 21:17

I think the women here wold support that wording too, @E091. I know I would

Deffo

LadyScience · 18/06/2020 21:17

How disappointing. I deliberately chose to place an order with Superdrug yesterday because they had a banner on their Women’s Health page which was biologically accurate. I’ll try and attach it as an image.

Sigh. I’m now worried if I highlight it, it will be taken down for wrongspeak.

Superdrug person who menstruate
FlamingoAndJohn · 18/06/2020 21:19

@Blibbyblobby

* As an aside - does anyone actually read their sanitary packets?! I just buy them and use them. I don't think I've ever sat there and read the label!*

Growing up in a house that had books in the loo, I managed to condition myself to require reading material to take a shit. Can’t crap unless I’m reading something.

Sadly not everyone has a well stocked library in the bog, so over the years I’ve read wide range of bathroom-related packaging. I’ve not read the Superdrug packet myself but it’s only a matter of time...

That is why the good lord saw fit to invent the mobile phone.
LemonadeAndDaisyChains · 18/06/2020 21:20

Why would you highlight it? When you agree with what it says? Just leave it Confused

LemonadeAndDaisyChains · 18/06/2020 21:21

That was to ladyScience, thread moved quick

Winederlust · 18/06/2020 21:26

@LemonadeAndDaisyChains

All born female so therefore biologically women...

Nobody
Has
Said
Differently

your circular arguments suggest otherwise.
LadyScience · 18/06/2020 21:30

To contribute to a discussion? Not sure I needed the Confused but thanks anyway

Melia100 · 18/06/2020 21:36

When you actually have to support someone close to you through this

You do know many women here have experienced this themselves, OP? And come to different conclusions to you about what is most helpful to their loved one? And that makes them neither nasty nor 'wetwipes' (wft?)

If your loved one is female, and chooses to present according to male gender patterns, that's OK. Nobody here wishes her harm, nobody wants her to miss out on employment, housing, medical care - and certainly nobody wants her to face violence.

That wanting of basic human rights for all, including females with a cross-sex identification, does not nullify the need for women to be able to speak about themselves as a sex-class.

It is indeed true that women and girls are the only people who can menstruate, because menstruation requires a uterus. It is an insane mangling of biological reality to claim that 'people' do, or even that 'men' do.

How about women, girls and transmen? Surely that's the compromise position? Because anything else is just a big, old, fat lie that requires women and girls to gaslight themselves about the nature of reality. No thanks. Your loved one and their mental health is not the only person to consider here, just as mine isn't, or yours isn't, or the lady next door isn't. It's for us to consider in aggregate - ALL women and ALL girls, and what is best for us as a class.

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